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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth stated that restoring Ukraine’s pre-2014 borders is “unrealistic,” signaling a shift in U.S. policy toward negotiated settlements.

Speaking at NATO headquarters, he argued that pursuing full territorial recovery would prolong the war and emphasized the need for security guarantees without NATO membership or U.S. troops in Ukraine.

Hegseth outlined Trump’s approach of reducing Russian war funding through increased U.S. energy production while shifting more military support responsibility to Europe.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Technically it’s both, given the etymology of the word. Just as you say ‘The United States of America’ or ‘The Republic of Congo’.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Except it's not like that. "The Ukraine" is how it was referred to when it was part of Russia. "Ukraine" is correct.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You might want to look up the historic usage. And I don’t mean the slavic etymology nor soviet russia. It has been named both until the article became a politicized matter. So if you want to object to me accidentially implying I would not affirm the independence of Ukraine as a country, then I understand that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I have looked it up. That's why I'm correcting you.

The country changed it in 1991, which is the year they got their independence.

"Ukraine" means "borderland". Adding "the" in front of it makes it descriptive: the borderland of a larger nation. Removing the "the" makes it a name, which it is, because it's its own country.

I don't correct people unless I've already looked it up. And I don't continue the conversation without looking it up again. Just say "Ukraine".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Given how you seem to need justifying your correction, I wonder what’s the point of it in the first place. I have used the term both with and without the article, obviously disregarding the political implications I am aware of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you disregard the political implications?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Because the content of my post already makes it clear that my position and perspective is on the side of Ukraine. I am not a diplomat, nor a politician nor a political speaker. Political correctness serves no point in my post and therefore was not relevant over my linguistic idiosyncrasies.