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I mean most of these things arent yet experienced by the workers in the Global North. perhaps I'm an ally of the JDPON after all.
There's often no difference in form of newly minted communists punching left against third worldism, and liberals punching left against communists. Newly minted communists are mad that third worldism is both correct in its observations and morals. Third worldism is taking away the new toy they found tells them why their lives should be better than they are. Same thing happens with liberals and liberalism in respect to communism.
Liberals see their place in society as cosmopolitan educated socialites. Communism reminds them they are in reality subjects of a capital order, whose only worth is based on the money they accumulate not on any acculturation, morality, or valor.
Communists see their place in society as "proletarians" (I'm using this loosely and not technically), a solidaristic class of the oppressed, not as a class of oppressors. Third Worldism reminds them that in reality they sit on the backs of a global proletariat living in even greater precarity than they do, and their emancipation as a proletariat cannot be moral or ideologically consistent if the global proletariat is not emancipated.
Absolutely. I think there's a lot of bad rep for third worldists because they've had to deal with more than their fair share of people hijacking their theory and language, but in general the principles are on point.
But also I think we may sometimes discard its tenets as a meme/joke rather than taking it seriously (as I have done so here, regrettably). I'm thankful that even if the language is different now, colonialism and its consequences are finally being thoroughly critiqued within the economics of class and race by socialists the world over.
I apologise for the snarky/joke comment!
I wasn't trying to dress you down, and I'm sorry if it came off that way.
I was merely using the memery to explain how the OP tweet is completely wrong, because even within the context of Marxism there are Marxists who read the scantest of theory and are like 'WHAT DO YOU MEAN GLOBALLY I'M THE BAD GUY?'. This usually comes out when Conservatives point to the fact that the American poor are economically way richer than global poor. Which is correct and is merely a rephrasing of imperial capitalism. So upon seeing these arguments they usually dismiss them in an illogical way because the only thing they learned from Socialism in one country vs International Socialism is 'Trotsky bad'.