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The Trump administration has begun flying undocumented immigrants from the US to a military detention facility at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, the White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said on Tuesday.

Leavitt told Fox Business Network that at least two deportation flights were “under way”, but gave no further details.

Her comments, however, appeared to confirm reporting by the Wall Street Journal, citing an anonymous official with knowledge of the operation, that about a dozen immigrants were onboard one flight from Fort Bliss, Texas. The newspaper said an additional flight had departed on Monday.

CNN later reported one of the flights had “about nine or 10” people onboard who were detained in the US without valid immigration documents.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not American so I could be way off but didn't they try but were blocked by Republicans? At the very least they reduced the count of inmates to only the more complicated ones (ie. where do they get sent to, what do we, do we completely fried this guys brain, etc)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I remember Obama wanted to close it, but then the big question of where to move the prisoners to in the US had to be answered, and nobody wanted to hold them. It was politically dead at that point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

From what I recall about the reasoning behind abandoning the idea of closing Guantanamo Bay, the only options were releasing them in central park or keeping them in Guantanamo Bay.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

I could definitely see that being a right wing talking point at the time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Obama could have pardoned the prisoners and apologized for holding them for many years without trial, in blatant violation of the plain text in the US Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Non-citizens detained in war don't have the same rights as US citizens.

Some of those people were guilty and should have been tried and jailed here (provided they could safely be held here).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Some of those people were guilty and should have been tried and jailed here

if so, why weren't they tried and sentenced?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because placing them in Guantanamo meant no one had to actually figure out where/how to house these people safely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that what jails are for? in USA you have a ton of those I hear... if these people were guilty of anything, surely there would be zero trouble charging them (specially in the Kangaroo Military courts of the USA). Once convicted you can put them in any jail of your liking

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and keeping these people safe in US federal prisons was going to be difficult. Many of them would have been murdered/assaulted due to how poorly the US manages the prison system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So instead they are kept uncharged and untried forever in Guantanamo??? where they are nicely safe and comfortable and not being tortured at all? for THEIR safety? got it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

“Because placing them in Guantanamo meant no one had to actually figure out where/how to house these people safely.”

I refer you back to my initial comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

confirming circular logic is circular... got it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No you don’t get it. They did this because the Bush administration didn’t want to confront the problem of potentially innocent people being murdered so they did nothing and other administrations chose to continue with that.

Sure these people should have been housed in the USA but can you imagine how few would live to see trial?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

No you don’t get it. They did this because the Bush administration didn’t want to confront the problem of potentially innocent people being murdered

If this was their concern, why didn't they just let them go? take them back where they took them from? after all, they didn't have enough evidence to even charge them

Side note, you should really check your reasoning here bud. You are literally arguing that the USA, in an abundance of care for the safety of certain people, they took them and left them to rot in a concentration camp for decades...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

They grabbed people ostensibly from battlefields. They aren’t collecting evidence in a firefight. This isn’t a cop tv show. Theoretically battlefield combatants do not have the rights you seem to think they do.

You should check your reading comprehension. I said they left these people to rot out of an unwillingness to confront the issue. Placing them in US prisons would mean most would be killed or harmed so instead of trying to resolve the issue the administration kicked the can to the next who did the same.

If you think Im defending this choice you are mistaken.