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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago

You can look at the other posts on this account , but basically the time is now for progressive liberals to get serious and see the US for what it is, and stop acting like there is something about the US government that's worth preserving.

It does not need to be a hardline "let's secede" kinda thing, cause we will fucking lose a civil war or whatever would happen next. It's more of a thought experiment/starting point/attitude. Going all in is gonna get us all shot, but if we know the US government is against our interests (as the working class, but also as progressive-thinking people). What does it look like to do 70% of a secession and maybe not kick off a war (preferable, once we get there, we can figure out what the next move is)?

Is 70% of a secession still too much? What does 30% look like? At least we are headed in the right direction of protecting our vulnerable populations instead of waiting on some Democrat to give us an indication...

We know Democrats aren't getting the job done, and one major reason is that they care about "America" and shit, but not our state (this especially resonates with people who have lived in our region before 2005 or so). Our city council does a land acknowledgement every week before their meeting, so if you care about "stolen land" and making our Indian comrades whole again, then what give the US a seat at the table in the first place? Average liberals love talking about the slavery, colonization, genocide, racism, white supremacy, neo-imeprialism, and war that the US is woven from, so once again, why are you [they] so attached to it?