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Trump blames DC air crash on workers with "severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, or other mental or physical conditions" (apnews.com)
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[–] 57 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You killed 67 people, and it's only been a month of your "presidency."

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  • [–] 71 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    A month? 10 days, mate. Months have around 30 days, so he still has time to raise that number.

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  • [–] 65 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Holy hell it's only been 10 days

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Think of all the covid deaths, place responsibility where it belongs, right in his lap. 1000 deaths on average per week, I don't have the long covid disabilities numbers 'off the top of my head', but they are even more.

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  • [+] -16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    As much as Trump is absolutely terrible, Biden was equally responsible for the large number of COVID deaths. His administration made the CDC completely abandon masking, ventilation, and other preventative guidance, almost completely abandon or hide COVID statistics, and he also said that the pandemic was "over". Credit both of them, a pair of terrible presidents.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No he wasn't. You don't blame the guy who gets on the train after it was allowed to get up to speed and run out of control, for not being able to stop it fast enough.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    You got a little bit of a point. Even if "equally" may be an exaggeration, you can certainly blame Biden for essentially dropping the push for masking, ventilation, vaccinations, and reporting of COVID. I do and always will. Like I said, both of them sucked regarding COVID.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Equally responsible." You're out of your mind. 1 million COVID deaths under Trump. What kind of numbers you got for Biden?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2024/09/18/covid-19-deaths-under-trump-1-million-fact-check/75197222007/

    Our rating: False

    The post overstates the number of COVID-19 deaths reported in the U.S. during Trump's presidency. At the time Trump left office in January 2021, the death toll had surpassed 400,000, according to multiple health organizations. The U.S. marked 1 million COVID-19 deaths in May 2022.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States

    Deaths 1,212,505[3] (reported) 1,197,470 (CDC estimate)[6]

    That means that about twice as many people in the US died from COVID under Biden's administration than under Trump's (1.2 million minus 400,000 = 800,000.

    Granted, Biden had a lot longer time dealing with the pandemic than Trump did, but this was all just to point out that Biden ALSO sucked in his handling of COVID.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Trump's entire handling of the pandemic including telling his cult members not to respect the advice of professionals continued to kill people until we hit 1 million. That's roughly four months into Biden's presidency. You can't lay any of that on Biden.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What effects do you think Biden telling the CDC to stop pushing for masking, ventilation, vaccination, and reporting on COVID, and then telling the country that the pandemic was over had on COVID deaths?

    Like I said, yes, Trump did a uniquely terrible job handling COVID (except for project warp speed to push for ultra-fast development of vaccines), but it's flabbergasting to see people speak as if Biden did nothing wrong in his own handling of the pandemic.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm not saying he was perfect. I'm saying the ideas pushed by Trump, Qanon, and other far right and conspiracy theory peddlers had already done their damage. By the time Biden took office, everyone had long ago sided with science or conspiracies. I doubt he convinced very many people one way or the other.

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  • [+] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Ok, I somewhat agree - I think under-reporting happened under both sides, even if Republicans may have done more of it, because both sides had some of the same incentives to do it.

    But that's beside the point. I'm just trying to get people to admit that Biden also did a bad job in handling the pandemic, in the interest of truth and acuracy, but I see that that's never going to happen with some people here (not directing this last sentence at you futatorius, but just in general with the people who have replied so far and those who downvoted me).

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I don't even know how you factor in other travesties. Like letting all those J6 criminals out of prison. One of them already had to be put down by a cop during a traffic stop. How do you factor that, when the safest option was to keep them in prison?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

    I hate Trump as much as anyone else here, but I fail to see how his FAA firings cause this accident. Can you explain how this is his fault?

    edit: Thanks for the downvotes assuming I'm a sealion, just because I asked a question.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Trump loves to blame people for things they have no direct control over, like blaming Boden for the cost of eggs, while taking credit for anything positive that happens while he is in office that had nothing to do with him.

    I assumed OP was mocking that attitude, but could be wrong.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The Buck Stops With Trump. You have no idea what directives Pete Hegseth gave the Pentagon which effected the orders, maintenance, or operation of the BlackHawk Helicopter which flew into the plane killing everyone. When incompetence is put in charge, things break, sometimes slowly, sometimes immediately, and when you purposefully throw a monkey wrench into the internal operations of state organs, people die. And now people have died, on Donald Trump's watch. The Buck Stops With Him as it has with all other Presidents before him.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    The entire federal workforce has extremely poor morale right now because of Traitorapist Trump. And the poor morale likely also caused the 2nd problem of not enough workers doing air traffic control. Trump's enshitification efforts have already had time to take effect. The quality of government has already been degraded.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/30/federal-workers-buyout-offer-00201349

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That article says that they have been dealing with staffing issues for some time.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's some stupid fucking horseshit. It would be nearly impossible to fire a large part of an organization without a noticeable effect. Here we have fatal evidence of that. Yeah people assume you're coming in bad faith because how could we not?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Trump plays to the American egregor of the CEO as Kingmaker. Literally proposes frequently running the USA as a business.

    When you are the CEO the responsibility of the entire thing lies with you.

    Now I don't agree with Trump, but it's merely holding him to his own standards.

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