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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Information Technology and Socialist Construction by Daniel Saros

Good so far, but I just started. Saw it recommended by Morozov

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds dope just from the title

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does, but I've been let down by similar books in the past. The recommendation by Morozov is making me want to finish it. Its on libgen if anyone wants it, the print copy is like $500 or some bullshit. Fuck Routledge.

So far it seems to tacitly be taking the position that socialism was impossible in the USSR, China, etc., because they had not yet fully developed capitalism (and the developed world did not experience the necessary revolutions to assist them in industrialization, etc). Which, I am a bit ambivalent about. Part of me is going "yes, yes, capital must first be sufficiently developed in order for it to be abolished", and the other part is rolling their eyes a bit.

That said, the first section has done a decent job of laying out the Marxist conception of capital, surplus value, historical development, and the various debates around these issues. The text is much less anti-marxist-brainwormed than something from the Parecon guys like Hahnel though, Saros is a marxist at the very least.

So I'm still unsure what I will think about it overall. Maybe he is a bit of a leftcom? idk yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

socialism was impossible in the USSR, China, etc., because they had not yet fully developed capitalism (and the developed world did not experience the necessary revolutions to assist them in industrialization, etc).

That's a Trot line isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Could be. I'm not very familiar with the trot line tbh. Not a single mention of trotsky yet though