I've never seen a materialist takedown of circumcision before (spectreofcommunism.boo)

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The first time an anti circumcision video isn't some MRA going "feminism cut my pp 😭"

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

That being said, there is significant evidence that circumcision lowers the probability of HIV transmission

The studies that push this were heavily flawed and criticised. They took two cohorts, circumcised one, and found that in under a year's time the circ group had a somewhat smaller level of hiv infection. Well maybe because they weren't having sex for two months after getting cut??

There's been follow up research showing that over time, cut and uncut cohorts don't have any meaningful difference in infection rates. I can find it if you like.

There's probably some increased rate of transmission through certain cells of the foreskin, but the difference isn't massive. And the protection isn't anywhere near as close as condoms or PrEP.

I need to always point out that circumcision is being pushed by Amerika in Sub-Saharan Africa, and very much by Bill Gates. They would be much better served by getting rid of IP protections for anti virals, and the West just stop fucking with their countries.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Frankly, my research into circumcision as an HIV prevention measure was a while ago and I took UNAIDS on their word for it. I believe this counts as talking out my ass and I apologize for that. Being corrected on this is something of a relief since it means one of the arguments in favor of circumcision being disproven.

I would love to read the research you mentioned.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nah, it's fine. I'm not mad. It's not your fault that Western Imperialism has fucked everything up. The general Western medical consensus is more or less what you said.

I did want to mention that the "voluntary" medical circumcision in Africa is around aged 12, which isn't exactly a good age of consent.

Give me a few minutes to find the research. I'll tag you when I find it.

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https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.2217/17469600.2.3.193

In the Kenya trial, the protective effect of circumcision seemed to disappear after 18 months. In the 18–24-month follow-up period, eight circumcised and nine uncircumcised males contracted HIV, an insignificant difference.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5345479/

Based on our analysis it is concluded that the circumcision solution is a wasteful distraction that takes resources away from more effective, less expensive, less invasive alternatives. By diverting attention away from more effective interventions, circumcision programs will likely increase the number of HIV infections.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Thank you friend!

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