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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If I ever go to Istanbul, I'll be telling people I visited Constantinople.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Fuck that Carigrad or Tsargrad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Byzantium iirc is a different place that is close by.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not sure that's the case

Byzantium ... was an ancient Greek city in classical antiquity that became known as Constantinople in late antiquity and Istanbul today

I think it's just grown over the years

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's a bit iffy. Byzantium originally was located a bit further west. After Constantinople was "refounded", it was located a bit further east. Some historians consider Constantinople to be a new city that usurped Byzantium over the years, others don't and consider it the same city altogether.

This is complicated by some sources referring to the place as one and the same, whereas others seem to be indicating distinct (albeit close) locations.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter though. It didn't take long for Constantinople to grow beyond where Byzantium used to be, so the time period where they could've been distinct is really quite small.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Interesting, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, even old New York was once New Amsterdam, so…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly, idk. I guess people just liked it better that way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the guy with the captain's hat thought it looked more like York.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

That this thread became a mixture of They Might Be Giants and Mitchell & Webb is hilarious and i'm here for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Supposedly, the English took it from the Dutch. The English king gave it to his brother who was the Duke of York and renamed it in his honor.