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My reasoning is that the period is a "stronger" punctuation mark than the comma, and it should be used for the more important separation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

that's not even close to a eurasian thing

also there's way better things where burgerland is better. farenhite, for example, where the range of realistic temperatures goes from 0-100, instead of -17 to 37 (all positive, nice range, and higher resolution)

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Fahrenheit is dumb as fuck

realistic temperature

Burgerlander unable to conceive of other countries

higher resolution

Burgerlander unable to conceive of decimal points

If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yeah fahrenheit sucks lol it's hilarious when Americans are like "it's so intuitive" my friend that is not what intuitive means you just learned it since the age of 4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

I think it highlights how temperature is a uniquely underused scale in ordinary life, with anything that gives some decent from -50 C to 550 C being enough

Whereas millimetres and kilometres are still useful despite being many orders of magnitude apart

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

centigrade is cool because the 0 point is something that makes sense, if it's negative degrees out you could see snow, you need to be super careful when driving, and if you have frost sensitive plants outside you need to take them inside. what happens at 0 degrees fahrenheit? nothing? what happens at 100 degrees? the outside temperature is the same as body temperature? ok good, cool and useful scale.

like everything else in burgerland it's completely based on nothing, impossible to convert to normal scale, and also it's only used by burgerites.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"

Poppycock! Next you'll be saying that it doesn't make sense for 100 degrees to be defined by the body temperature of a horse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Burgerlander unable to conceive of other countries

do you just not know anything about other countries? tropical countries have an even narrower temperature range so Celsius would give them even less resolution

Burgerlander unable to conceive of decimal points

if you're using this logic then we should all just use Kelvin and eliminate the middle man

If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"

absolutely based that that mixture just happened to produce such a great scale (which could be slightly tweaked to perfection, but is still pretty good at the moment)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The “resolution” argument is silly because there’s no way you walk out and think to yourself “I know the weather app says it’s 98 today but it sure feels like 99 to me.”

I might maybe just be able to detect a difference of 2C or really more like 4-5C before it’s a difference I really care about in terms of how I dress or what activities I choose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

dude I stopped caring about this argument 2 days ago. you win, whatever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

do you just not know anything about other countries? tropical countries have an even narrower temperature range so Celsius would give them even less resolution

I've never known a time when it's important to say it's 27 degrees instead of 26.5 degrees.

Air temperature matters even less in tropical places anyway because it's the humidity that will get you

we should all just use Kelvin and eliminate the middle man

If you hated Celcius you wouldn't go to kelvin, kelvin is what you get when you start with celcius and figure out absolute zero

absolutely based

cringe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

we should all just use Kelvin and eliminate the middle man

good opinion

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fahrenheit's range of temperatures goes from "salt water starts to freeze" to "slightly higher than body temperature". I guess if you live on the coast the salt water kinda sorta makes sense, but the only thing that makes it seem "realistic" to you is that you use it. Like really, your list of pros is that the numbers are positive - don't ask what happens when the salt water freezees - it's a "nice range" (what is that even suppoosed to mean), and that it's higher resolution, despite humans not being able to tell the difference between 72 and 73°F and scientific instruments using celsius or kelvin instead. It's all nonsense american exceptionalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

but the only thing that makes it seem "realistic" to you is that you use it

nah, it's the fact that 95% of the places where 95% of people live, will 95% of the time be between 0-100 on an F scale

-5 F is "really fucking cold"
-5 C is just an average temperate winter's day

hilarious that people are offended by this for whatever reason. The only legitimate reason would be if you're from a tropical country where differences between 93 and 94 F start making a huge difference, and you'd be better served by a different scale, but Celsius would be even worse at that.

despite humans not being able to tell the difference between 72 and 73°F

The celsius blind spot is bigger than that, and the "feelability" of small temp differences is higher at certain ranges

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

nah, it's the fact that 95% of the places where 95% of people live, will 95% of the time be between 0-100 on an F scale

You definitely made those numbers up because it regularly goes above 40°C in a lot of places. The mediteranean regularly enjoys those kinds of temperatures, never mind equatorial countries.

-5 F is "really fucking cold"
-5 C is just an average temperate winter's day

Depends on the climate you're used to. Sure, in Scandinavia that might be the case, in the UK -5C is definitely "really fucking cold", and in Qatar it's unheard of. You are assuming your personal experiences are the worldwide norm.

where differences between 93 and 94 F start making a huge difference,

....what do you think is important about the difference between 93°F and 94°F (33.8°C and 34.4°C)?

The celsius blind spot is bigger than that

What blind spot? Have you not learnt about decimals?

the "feelability" of small temp differences is higher at certain ranges

Oh please, do explain. I can't wait to hear this.

Edit: Right, I forgot to mention:

hilarious that people are offended by this for whatever reason

I'm not mad you're mad
speech-top
rage-cry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You definitely made those numbers up because it regularly goes above 40°C in a lot of places. The mediteranean regularly enjoys those kinds of temperatures, never mind equatorial countries.

I'm literally from an equatorial country, lmao. Check the "regular" temps for yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai#Climate

in the UK -5C is definitely "really fucking cold"

I mean by that logic why do anything at all, because everything is relative? Absolute quantities matter, you could justify the worst sort of suffering elsewise. Brits feeling -5C aren't gonna feel colder than Dongbeiers at their normal -18 C (0 F btw) just because it's relatively out of the ordinary.

I'm not mad you're mad

eh I just use "mad" when people are vehemently against something without providing a real counterargument

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Why are you like this?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

when people are vehemently against something without providing a real counterargument

projection

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm literally from an equatorial country, lmao.
India

chefs-kiss Nothing I could have possibly said would make you look more uninformed.

you could justify the worst sort of suffering elsewise.

I was gonna talk about the sentences around it and that literally being my point, but what the fuck is this sentence? Why did you include this? What the fuck are you trying to imply about Celsius?

without providing a real counterargument

Hey, while we talk about real and fake arguments, why don't you answer the questions you skipped: What is special about the 93/94°F boundary, what "blind spot" does celsius have, and what are the temperature ranges at which people become more sensitive to small differences?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Honestly it's pretty pathetic that you've been reduced from passionately asserting that Fahrenheit is a superior system, to a meek little "ok" when directly asked to explain your reasoning. Maybe next time just shut up before adding your opinion.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I don't think anybody's offended by your stance, just that we feel it's a weird hill to die on. I'm a scientist, so I use Celsius and Kelvin all day. I've switched my home's thermostat and refrigerator to both display in Celsius since my brain is already in that mode. It would be easier if the whole world standardized on something instead of it being split like it is, and since science has standardized on Celsius, that standard for everybody else should be Celsius.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fahrenheit's strongest soldier, the funniest type of american online lol. nobody is "offended", take it easy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fun fact: I'm not actually an american!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

can you give me a few more paragraphs on why fahrenheit is better, i'm almost convinced but still not quite sure

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I pick the nice round numbers and declare them sensible boundaries, then I convert them to the other system and remark! They are ugly numbers! Haha! Truly the superiority of my system is self evident.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

and higher resolution

Celsius thermostats have temperature adjustments of 0.5° C. This is the first time in over a decade that I've dug up that memory.

Over 40 is deadly, 35-40 is very hot, 30-35 is hot, 25-30 is warm, 20-25 is reasonable room temperature, 15-20 is cool, 10-15 is chilly (threshold of winter layers), 0-10 is cold, below 0 is freezing, below -10 you need multiple layers, below -20 moisture will freeze to your eyebrows and eyelashes and you can feel the air sucking the warmth out of your body.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm a chemist so I like celsius. party-parrot-science

I know Europe uses the decimal comma. I threw Asia in there because I assumed they had mix of everything I guess.