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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This still feels a touch biased -- there's no explanation of how China's democratic process works, for example. But at least it admits that the system is working.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's definitely biased, you can immediately tell from the use of CCP. But it is a surprisingly honest assessment for a mainstream western source, and a kind of thing that can be shared with libs without them shutting down immediately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I saw this comment and took time to read it. Shit is perfect for the use-case you mention here. I even learned more than I thought I would. So double win in my book! Such levels of decentralization for practical purposes makes sense with a nation as large as China. And does seem to give a reasonable example of why China's model is more quickly able to have adapted to major changes globally and internally than what the USSR system turned into.

"One size fits all" is not practical in countries over a certain size (both in landmass and population). Even in the US we see huge federal level approaches end up gutted to the point that the name of the bills/laws don't reflect the names given. What makes sense for a mega city like NYC or LA tends to be completely wrong for the large rural areas/regions.

The article showing that China very much has "states' rights" makes it easier to show how a socialist system in the US could very much work (and pokes many holes in the propaganda of "authoritarianism" of the central gov we are taught). Also that China's socialism is actually much more bottom-up than top-down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Exactly, the central government focuses on the overall direction and coordination between local governments, while local concerns can be addressed bottom up. I very much agree this makes Chinese model very robust overall.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's funny is the author is Chinese and faculty at Peking University, but went to US universities up to the PhD level.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

From what I know it's a fairly common thing too, hence why there are a bunch of libs in China now who went through indoctrination in US education system. Hopefully that trend will stop now that the US is doing witch hunts and Chinese universities are starting to be seen as being of a similar standard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I sure hope so. The last thing China needs is a generation of liberals interrupting their progress

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Given how things are going in the west, I doubt anybody is going to see liberalism as a viable way forward now.