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Installed Steam on a new computer. Signed in. It sent a passcode to my GMail. I signed into GMail. It wanted me to 2FA because I hadn't signed into Google on that device. It sent a notification to my phone, which I never received. I had it resend the notification twice, still nothing. Tried again with my phone's offline passcodes. Neither worked. Tried the QR code/Bluetooth connection, and that finally did it.

At least I got through in the end, but fuck, it's annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Discord wanted my fucking phone number and since I use a free voip service it couldn't send it to that so I had to use my dad's phone. So fucking stupid and backwards. I've been using email for decades now and I've never been hacked, what was wrong with that, why you gotta enshittify everything so?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

A phone number requirement is to stop people from making a bunch of accounts. Emails are free and unlimited, but phone numbers mostly cost money and like you said they have some way to know which numbers come from free voip services.

Of course phone numbers are also more closely linked to your private identity, as they usually have to be in your or someone close to you's name. So that makes data gathering easier and makes it easier for feds to snoop on your shit if they really wanted (Discord will comply ofc).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

VoIP is not supported for 2FA by some institutions like banks because it may be less secure than a conventional phone line, since it is connected to the internet. In practice, I think SMS is insecure regardless whether it is over the internet or phone line, but in any case that is why VoIP is not fully supported.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

SMS is very unsecure but companies use it. I think that's what Discord uses on sign up, but they don't allow free numbers like Google Voice.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's not fair to broke b*tches like me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 20 hours ago

Or ban evader trolls like me. thonk-cri

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Discord doesn't even have to comply, there's zero E2EE in any part of the network, anyone can snoop in on it if they get any level of access to chat logs.

I wonder why Discord is known for being home to predators.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

There's still TLS, so even without end to end encryption of the messages, the only parties that should be able to see the contents are you, the recipient(s), and Discord. So either Discord has to willingly give over the messages, or a larger data breach of Discord has to happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Discord hasn't asked me for a phone number and I have 2 burner accounts on there with email aliases. I think you just got flagged because you connected with a VPN or something. I use Vesktop as well so that might be why.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

I think individual Discord servers can demand phone verification as a way to limit people entering it.