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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is using up resources without paying for it. It's stealing by any definition.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

who do you pay for all the oxygen you use up?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Oxygen is not produced by workers. Electricity, bandwidth, storage, security, software, video content are all produced by workers.

For a commie you are quite unaware of the means of production...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

seems like you aren't aware of communist opposition to private property.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Wages have nothing to do with property.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They don't, you're just trying to change the subject to distract from your subconscious telling you you're wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

wages are paid by property owners. communism is a moneyless society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Wages are paid by whoever pays them. Customers, owners or coops. Nothing to do with property.

There hasn't been a moneyless society, so communism would be, if anything. If we're doing fantasy, I like star wars better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

a customer pays a fee, not a wage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago

The customer pays a price, that if you are a freelancer, it's your wage. As many content creators do.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

there are plenty of examples of moneyless societies

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

watching ads doesn't transfer money to YouTube. not stealing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Watching ads absolutely does transfer money to YouTube, how do you think Google exists??

It's astonishing how naive (or obtuse) people can be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

advertisers pay google. I don't pay google by watching ads.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Advertisers pay Google when your watch ads. Goole pays the creators (and utilities, and rent, and employees, and..). By not watching ads, all those people are not getting paid, hence you are stealing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

advertisers pay google when google tells them I watched an ad. not when I do it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you were right (which you aren't, ads don't work like that) it would change the fact you're stealing.

Does lying to yourself makes you feel less guilty?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not lying at all, and I won't be made to feel guilty for avoiding ads

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Deep down you are kinda guilty already, don't ya? You know what you are doing is wrong and yelling and strangers makes it easier...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

no. telling people spreading misinformation they're wrong is cathartic to me

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Whatever you need to tell yourself. Thieves don't get far in life, so reconsider someday.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

calling me names won't change the facts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If you steal, it's not a name, it's a definition.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago) (2 children)

So stealing is defined (in some states) as taking property with the intent to permanently deprive the owner of the property. So you're incorrect and [email protected] might be breaking YouTube's terms and condition not the law, and it's not theft.

If Google were paying the content creators anything even remotely resembling the kind of income from advertisers the content earns, I might have a shred of sympathy for them losing a tiny bit of advertising revenue if some user watches a video without watching the same three ads they've seen ten times already that day.

You're spending a lot of time and effort defending one of the richest corporations in the world. It's weird.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

PS: Has it occurred to you that I'm defending the workers that earn a living on the platform and are hurt by stealing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

stealing has a specific definition. I'm not stealing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

Taking things or using resources without paying the expected price. So theft. Tsk Tsk.