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show transcriptchirasul posted:
my only advice is to BE CAREFUL posting about holiday traditions around europeans. you'll post something casual like "anyone else watch the old Grinch movie every year? what a classic" and a european will appear as if summoned and say some shit like "funny how USAmericans always CONVENIENTLY forget that Not Everyone On Earth is from The USA…….. no of COURSE we dont watch 'the grunch' or whatever the fuck that is…. our tradition is to attend a community showing of Glummdorf the Racial Stereotype"

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riseupriseupandcomealong:
my mom’s (american) class tried doing a language exchange thing w a sister school in spain and they decided to send each other boxes of gifts for christmas. the spanish class made remarks about oh christmas in the usa is so commercialized we have ~real traditions~ here and then my mom opened a box full of blackface dolls and blackface doll ornaments and blackface clothespins in front of her students

raygender:
Did once have a Dutch woman vehemently defend the Festive Christmas Blackface by repeating "it's different in Europe” with increasing desperation until she was crying. Literally all anybody else present did was just like, calmly say they were uncomfortable with the practice and not change her mind when she wailed about it.

monkey-mulch:
you bring up rudolph the red nosed reindeer and they bring out Skimbo the filthy redskin and im barely even joking about that they actually had this thing called indian plays in both soviet countries and germany

themainspoon:
European children waiting patiently on Hatemas Eve for Racism Claus to slur down the chimney and segregate all of their presents by colour.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I loved grinch back in the nineties.

Nirvana and all that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Like... everything that happened in Europe culturally in the 90s was derived from America, even waay into the 00s, and the 10s, and the - y'know what, they've colonised our culture (nevermind that ours was so permeable that we just lapped it all up)! Now I hate The Muppets, and The Grinch Who Stole Christmas, and it was one of my favourite movies while growing up!

When did you say we're celebrating Hatemas Eve again, because sign me tf up!

(/s, of course)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

To be fair, lots of influence came from the US and UK in the nineties. Lots of good stuff!

If I'm angry at something silly it would be coca cola santa lol 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Colonial culture has defined and permeated European culture since forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That was the impulse behind my joke, pot calling the kettle black and all that... Didn't mean to imply any different, we started the whole mess after all...