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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (46 children)

Is god also jesus and the holy spirit all at once?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

That's all retconning.

Dude showed up with a message for peace, was murdered and his murder is celebrated. Literally, a bunch of people running around pretending that's what he wanted. The propaganda is so strong that everyone just accepts it as fact.

It's really not much different than claiming a women wanted to be sexually assaulted because of what she was wearing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No?

Mark 15:29-30 And those who passed by derided him, wagging their heads and saying, “Aha! You who would destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, save yourself, and come down from the cross!”

Even the old testament shows it was voluntary

Isaiah 53:6-9 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned—every one—to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth. By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people? And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth.

Jesus claimed to be God

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 8:57-58 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, no shit. They wrote a bunch of books with varying accounts claiming exactly this. All retcon. All written decades after the events. The Bible is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

All written decades after the events.

Unlike most of history for that time, which was usually written centuries after the events.

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