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Hello comrades. In the interest of upholding our code of conduct - specifically, rule 1 (providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all) - we felt it appropriate to make a statement regarding the lionization of Luigi Mangione, the alleged United Healthcare CEO shooter, also known as "The Adjuster."

In the day or so since the alleged shooter's identity became known to the public, the whole world has had the chance to dig though his personal social media accounts and attempt to decipher his political ideology and motives. What we have learned may shock you. He is not one of us. He is a "typical" American with largely incoherent, and in many cases reactionary politics. For the most part, what is remarkable about the man himself is that he chose to take out his anger on a genuine enemy of the proletariat, instead of an elementary school.

This is a situation where the art must be separated from the artist. We do not condemn the attack, but as a role model, Luigi Mangione falls short. We do not expect perfection from revolutionary figures either, but we expect a modicum of revolutionary discipline. We expect them not simply to identify an unpopular element of society hitler-detector , but to clearly illuminate the causes of oppression and the means by which they are overcome. When we canonize revolutionary figures, we are holding them up as an example to be followed.

This is where things come back to rule 1. Mangione has a long social media history bearing a spectrum of reactionary viewpoints, and interacting positively with many powerful reactionary figures. While some commenters have referred to this as "nothing malicious," by lionizing this man we effectively deem this behavior acceptable, or at the very least, safe to ignore. This is the type of tailism which opens the door to making a space unsafe for marginalized people.

We're going to be more strict on moderating posts which do little more than lionize the shooter. There is plenty to be said about the unfolding events, the remarkably positive public reaction, how public reactions to "propaganda of the deed" may have changed since the historical epoch of its conception (and how the strategic hazards might not have), and many other aspects of the news without canonizing this man specifically. We can still dance on the graves of our enemies and celebrate their rediscovered fear and vulnerability without the vulgar revisionism needed to pretend this man is some sort of example of Marxist or Anarchist practice.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

i have spent far too much energy on them today and i regret it, super drained. thanks for the word of support comrade. i really firmly believe that a large group of users are completely wrong about this and seeing them dig in and get nasty is really unpleasant. just thankful the mods are on the correct side of this one lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i really firmly believe that a large group of users are completely wrong about this and seeing them dig in and get nasty is really unpleasant.

I genuinely hope none of these motherfuckers are in my org. Hell, I hope anyone who shares an org with them gets clear soon, if this is the way they dig their heels in and talk over folk. This past couple days, this subject? This is exactly what I mean when I elaborate as to why I only organize and agitate with Black-led, Black-oriented formations, and STILL line out a difference between those I consider comrades, and settler-'leftists'. I haven't heard ONE LICK of bullshit like this out of any of my kinfolk, but oooooooooh do I have to listen to cracker after cracker uplifting their favorite new techbro twink.

I genuinely hope this site is just crackers on zero organizational motion after this past couple days. I don't want them polluting spaces meant for people with even a half an iota of discipline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry if I was too agro w the first comment I'm too much of a poster

On the content of the post, I agree with praxagora's post witch seems more well received and much more articulate. I think some of the drama here is what we think lionizing is. I think what praxagora description of her work at the food bank is what I'm advocating for.

Reading that post also reinforces I'm bad at putting my thoughts to words i-cant