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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

This is like imagining Ireland before potatoes were brought back from the America's, it's impossible. Or thinking about India not having spicy peppers, as they came from the America's as well. Fucking Caeser got drunk and made his salad in Mexico cause he was to lazy to make it back.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This is like imagining Ireland before potatoes were brought back from the America’s, it’s impossible.

Fun bit about that - potatoes had a similar journey in continental Europe! The French thought they were disease-spreading and only good for animal feed, until the good doctor Parmentier was captured by the Prussians during wartime, who had recently begun experimenting with potato cultivation, and got fed a steady diet of potatoes while in captivity. Realizing that a prolonged period of time of eating potatoes had NOT killed him, he went on to advocate for its wider usage.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Food has fun history. Like the root rot that happened across France and Italy that almost wiped out the grape vineyards. They were saved by grafting some of them and transporting them to California, and then they found out the root systems in California were immune to the root rot occuring in France/Italy so they were able to move some of those plants back. Not saying that all of California's wine comes from those grafted plants, but I wonder how much of an impact they had on turning California into the wine creators they are today.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Not even animal feed, the thing is when they introduced potatoes to farmers in France the farmers did what they usually do with the leaves of root vegetables: they gave it to their animals.

Except the potato leaves are poisonous, so after seeing that this unknown vegetable was killing their animals or making them sick they of course got rid of it and did not want to take risks with the roots themselves.

Now, I don't know if it's a legend or not but what Parmentier did to make farmers interested again is that he asked for a field of potato to be planted around Versailles and have it being guarded day and night. When the potatoes where ready the guards would start to be less careful and leaves the field unatendded for some period that left the opportunity for peasants to grab this delicious crop that the king was protecting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The French put up potatoe fields guarded by the military, but the soldiers were instructed to not catch anyone trying to steal the potato plants. Thus making people think it was valuable, and cultivate it.

In sweden they introduced it, people cultivated it but ate the leafs and got sick so they went on a rampage to kill the persons who had introduced them to potatoes.

BTW the Hachis Parmentier is a dish named after Parmentier and it's delicious!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For anyone curious about Hachis Parmentier:

It's shepherds pie but french. That is all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Also, it's delicious, much like shepherds pie

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I always thought that was some German King with the "guarded" patches.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I might be wrong, learned it here in France, any potato historians out there?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

The same story is definitely told about Frederick the Great, who put great effort into cultivating the potato in Prussia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay .. now I am going to have the conspiracy that Caesar is alive in South America, and when the Nazi's fled there, they were looking for advice on how to rebuild their lives after a failed empire.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Caesar: "Who are these German barbarians to speak to ME? Degenerates like them belong on a cross!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I, Caligula, have consulted with Incitatus Caesar. We believe the Pope did excommunicate their leader. We must agree with you. Though we could use a few new hands helping with the agave harvest

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I believe yams are still native to Asia and Africa, I wonder if they had these as more popular until the American potatos took over

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imo, the orange sweet potatoes are superior. I'm not ready to die on this hill, but I am ready to fight on it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Carolinian here: no need to fight we got sweet potatoes for everyone that wants some.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Can you send some more my way? I'm fresh out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Nuh uhh. Chili peppers didn't come from the Americas. I refuse to believe it.