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What kind of chores are you doing? Going out to the barn and shoeing the horses?
You never cooked before? Or mowed the law?
Hobby cooking and cooking to survive are very different things. Also, are you under the impression that gardening and lawn mowing are the same?
If you cook, you cook for a purpose, you don't throw food away just because you've cooked for the sake of cooking, you eat it, or serve it to someone else to eat. In the end it's a chore fulfilled still.
And lawn mowing is a part of gardening, just as pruning flowers and dealing with seedlings is. Sincerely, what do you think gardening is? Vegetables and fruit trees? No, as a hobby and chore it's so much more than that. If you own a garden you want it to be presentable in at least some capacity, that requires taking care of it by planting bushes, trimming them, dealing with pests, seeding new grass if a heatwave destroyed it, etc.
Grass is stupid, just get rid of it and it won't matter if mowing it is gardening or not.
I just don't understand why they think people mow gardens.
Grass is a part of gardens??? Where do you live that your garden has no lawn/grass in it??? If you own a house the area around it is called a garden, and taking care of it is called gardening, what kind of house are you used to???
Living in Canada. Very few of the gardens in my neighbourhood have grass. It's not as uncommon as you think.
"I have to go mow the garden."
-- Literally no one.
But lawn mowing would be taking care of the garden if it had grass in it, and would be gardening by extension, that was the crux of the argument.
In America gardens are typically the tilled soil where one grows fruits, herbs, vegetables, and/or flowers. The grass is the lawn. Most houses have lawns, not everyone has the time, knowledge, or interest to have a garden.
I sort of assumed at one point that squid is American, kind of weird that taking care of one specific type of plant is somehow not considered gardening in america
Nah, squid live in the ocean, America is on land. Not sure what that has to do with grass, but whatever, now you know!
Of course, how could I forget! Thanks for reminding me
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Grass is not stupid! The way we work it is however quite stupid. There are beautiful and resilient types of grasses which are fun to grow. They also have a rich history, read otherlands if you like to go through the ages of flora and fauna
Sorry, I was referring to the short green stuff that's an invasive species that everyone in America spends millions and millions of dollars to grow, wasting water and filling our habitat with harmful pesticides and fertilizers. Native grasses are dope, but very few people grow them.
There's overlap, but not necessarily. If I'm cooking for fun, I'll cook things that are tasty and that I (or whoever I'm cooking for) would enjoy eating. I won't be paying attention to the nutritional content of the food. But if I'm cooking for sustenance, then nutritional value comes first before enjoyment of the process or the food. Sometimes, you have to do both for one meal.
I've never seen anyone mow a garden.
And people cook for others and don't always eat what they cook. Like giving people cookies as a gift.
Has no one ever given you cookies?
Wait, you're American aren't you? FYI, in other countries people who own a house have more than a lawn, because only having a lawn is considered weird af. But taking care of that lawn is still considered a part of gardening, and mowing is part of that.
Also baking isn't cooking, they are two different things. Baking is a lot more chemistry than cooking is
What the fuck are you even talking about now? What is a book full of baking recipes called? Hint: not a "baking book."
It's not a cookbook either
Sorry, you're going with a non-English word and yet you're defining your terms in English?
Hey I translated the word as it is. If you want to suddenly change the argument from cooking vs baking to recipe books, I don't see why you're complaining.
Baking is a chemistry and following an exact recipe unless you're very good at what you do, cooking is free form and putting a spin on recipes.
No one in English calls it that. We call it a cookbook.
If the issue is that baking isn't cooking and mowing is gardening in your language, that's not how it works in English.
I do know how my native language works, believe it or not. If I went to a bookstore and asked for a "backbuch," they wouldn't know what I was talking about. What with it not being an English words.
Baking recipes are in the cookbook section.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/recipe%20book
Look, I know you think you know English better than I do, but you do not.
This is one of the most popular English cookbooks in the world. I get most of my baking recipes from it.
Here are some baking recipes from it.
Now at this point, you're essentially trolling and I think it's about time you stop.
Edit: Uh-oh, this bookstore put a baking book in the cookbook section and not the "backbuch" section!
Edit 2: Apparently neither Amazon nor Dolly Parton know what cooking is.
Edit 3: IT GETS WORSE! The famed BRITISH LIBRARY thinks BAKING CAKES is the same as COOKING!
https://blogs.bl.uk/european/2024/05/continental-cookbooks.html
Edit 4: This conspiracy is global in nature!
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-3059560066/view?searchTerm=Cookbook#search/Cookbook
Baking! In an Australian cookbook! They didn't call it a backbuch, the fools!
Edit 5: EVEN THE FRENCH ARE IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!
https://www.cordonbleu.edu/australia/recipes/en
Hey man, great effort, but just to remind you the OG argument was: Cooking/Gardening can be a chore and a hobby
I thought the argument was "Is mowing grass considered gardening?" If so, the definitive answer we reached was "depends on your definition of garden." There's really no wrong or right answer here y'all, language is relative.
And then you decided to make it about how baking is not cooking and how books with baking recipes aren't cookbooks. I take it this means you have changed your mind on this and maybe you don't know the English language better than all native speakers?
You're the one who pulled baking into it though? I was not required to entertain your baking argument at any point, so why are you acting as if you have the moral high ground?
The argument was simply: Cooking and Gardening are oftentimes chores that fall on women, so it's kind of interesting to see those as attractive hobbies for men. The last part wasn't said, but implied, and i hoped people would realize it themselves, but alas now we're here
Oh, I see. This has all been about sexism. My mistake.
it's fine, i should have included the second part in my original comment
As someone who cooked for a living, home cooking is fun! It's like making art, but you get to eat the art! And gardening isn't mowing a lawn, my plants are well kept and the process of seeing the effect of small changes you make to placement, water schedule, additives is like having a pet :)
Cooking for others is fun, I agree. I love baking for others myself. Even have my own chocolate chip cookie recipe that managed to impress the local grandma club.
I also think there's some confusion about American and European gardening, here mowing is just considered as much a part of taking care of a garden as is dealing with seedlings, etc. There's an expectation too, to keep proper plants apart from grass on your property, so gardening is much more chore-like here. Bushes are a popular alternative to fences, and those need trimming after all