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The team behind menstrual health and period tracking app Clue has said it will not disclose users' data to American authorities, following Donald Trump's reelection.

The message comes in response to concerns that during Trump's second presidency, abortion bans that followed the overturn of Roe v. Wade in 2022 will worsen and states will attempt to increase menstrual surveillance in order to further restrict access to terminations.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Period tracking apps should store no data at all in the cloud.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some people want convenience of accessing the data between devices.

It's okay to store stuff in the cloud just make it's encrypted deeply and thoroughly and that the user is the only person with the key.

There's absolutely no reason for them to have access to this data.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yup. I use Tuta for email, and they have a calendar feature that should be more than sufficient. Just set a recurring event for 28 days or whatever your personal cycle is, and you're good to go! Everything is E2EE, so there's nothing for the authorities to get.

I'm sure Proton Mail's calendar feature is equally sufficient here, or you could self-host something like NextCloud and use the calendar that way.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not about having a rigid schedule, but about actually tracking periods and analyzing the data. I'm male and that's about all I know about it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Eh, a calendar and a spreadsheet should be enough, but I also don't have menstrual cycles, so what do I know...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I'd imagine it's the same as personal finance apps. A spreadsheet can be enough, and it is enough for a lot of people, but a custom app can make things easier:

  • reducing the friction of keeping track
  • built in visualizations
  • alerts
  • integrating the data with other tools

etc.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I tend to get headaches more frequently at a certain point in my ~monthly cycle, not at the same time I have my period. It's nice to know it's coming so I can plan accordingly. Like avoid being on a road trip at that time, or proactively knocking it out with meds before it even starts.

Some people find their cycles affect their energy and recovery a lot, so they adjust their workout plans accordingly. Like knowing when within a cycle estrogen and testosterone are at their peak, versus progesterone.

Aside from just day count between periods, some people track temp, consistency of vaginal fluid, mood, weight, and probably other things depending on their needs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You actually have your period the same time everytime like in a textbook? That's sounds pretty nice, first time I heard someone has that. Usually it's pretty random, like sometimes it's 20 days sometimes it's 35 and you have to calculate it with the daily temperature. I'm kinda jealous ngl

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a male, but I am married to someone who has periods. And yeah, they're not textbook, but they're generally within a couple days. We can both tell when it's about to happen because my SO's hormones start going crazy (alternate between angry over small things and affectionate), and like clockwork, the menstrual cycle happens about 2 days later.

But yeah, it's generally about every 4 weeks, give or take a few days. It used to be all over the place, but now that she's been better about exercise and diet, it's a lot more consistent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh that sounds really nice, in that case you really don't need to use a period app. I have to enter my temperature, cervix condition and (I don't know the English word for it but you know,) the 'slime' condition. Sometimes it's 6 weeks, sometimes it's 3, the app helps a lot but sometimes it's still off.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Apparently the English word is discharge

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But how will they make their money mate?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no cloud or get fossed, son.

Seriously how some business makes money doesn’t matter in the context of state surveillance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there an open source period tracker that you have contributed to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are calendar apps, which should get the job done, assuming your menstrual cycle is pretty regular.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would you assume the cycle is regular? It’s a biological process that can vary quite a bit, which is part of why you would want to track it in the first place. There’s also much more to track that just the expected start date of your next cycle. The various tracking apps are quite a bit more involved than just a calendar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, I know they're not necessarily regular, seeing as I'm married to someone with menstrual cycles. I guess I'm just not very familiar with what kind of data a calendar and a spreadsheet can't solve just as easily.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Actually I’ll agree with you that a spreadsheet could do a lot, but that’s a niche solution. Building a good one requires a fair bit of technical know how, and even using one well requires a lot of understanding.