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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Original post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3856299?scrollToComments=false

I think we have a general path forward based on community feedback. "We see you, we hear you!"

I went ahead and unpinned the old post. I'm pinning this one for now and will edit this post when I wake up from eepy time. I had a very mid week and have no particular alarm set so be on look out. Love y'all and I'm amped for my first announcement post since coming back. :)

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

But you can still do functionally the same thing in c/gossip just not at the same people

[-] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then it's not functionally the same thing, dipshit

We're now at the point in the argument where you are trying to say "it doesn't even matter!" because all your other pathetic excuses have been hollowed out. The fact that you're a mod is sad, the fact that you haven't had the presence of mind to step down is fucking pathetic.
I know a lot of you people can't handle dissent and get irrationally angry when people disagree with you or like things you don't enjoy, but grow up. YOU and YOUR ACTIONS are unhealthy for the site culture. YOUR BEHAVIOUR is toxic. YOU are the problem. Do some self-crit. Take a step back and ask yourself some questions about why you feel the way you feel about these things.

If you don't enjoy what the site is, then don't participate in it. This is not your personal project, but somethig a lot of people build and shape together. The site culture is ever-changing and that is an organic process. Being a mad little pissbaby because people enjoy things you don't, isn't organic, it's actually not even normal. The things YOU and YOUR clique is doing is killing the site. I know you're deluding yourself into thinking if you just get rid of [group] then this site will finally become good. The site is fine, you're the issue, the rot is inside you. You will never enjoy it, because you will always encounter people who disagree with you or dissent with your opinion or call you out for being a dipshit or enjoy things you don't enjoy. Even things you find troubesome in some way.
In the end this is just a niche leftist webforum, the worst case is permanent stalin-gun-1logout but I'd be sad to see this community go. Especially if it's killed because of some dork like you.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Im not saying it doesnt matter, you accuse the mod team of taking away your "fun", so im pointing out you can still have "fun", was dunking on nobodies your only source of fun?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

jfc I am becoming a broken record. Is this your idea of durable rhetoric? Is this your idea of non-toxicity? You are still doing basic debatebrodismissiveness as well as throwing out sad attempts at turning this into a personal mental health issue. Childish. Log out, never log on again until you've learned to handle people disagreeing with you.
I haven't actually "accused the mod team of taking away my fun" great reading ability! If you're gonna try to go down that path, actually engage with the specific things I am saying, instead of what you'd like me to be saying.

edit: And we are now at the point in the argument where you try to move the discussion to something else, because you've exhausted the current one. This is why you are trying to make it about me. Loser.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

u/TerribleHands literally asked

Why do you have to ruin other people's fun?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Oh? And that user is me? Neat!

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

We were clearly talking in reference to that comment

[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

We clearly weren't you hack

But hey you've managed to change the discussion to one you're actually comfortable in: Something completely meaningless! Good for you that we are no longer talking about the many ways you've showed your ass, the many faults in your reasoning, the fact you're moderating something you dislike like an absolute moron, or any of that stuff, we're instead having a pointless argument about what we were arguing about arguing about. joker-amerikkklap Once again, do some self crit. The fact you're a mod is pathetic

[-] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

so you can do functionally the same thing just not functionally the same thing, gotcha, makes sense

pooh-wtf

[-] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it is functionally the same thing, you can still "dunk" on people, they just have to be public figures, that does not in any way diminish the "fun" in it does it?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Then it's not functionally the same thing, dipshit.

that does not in any way diminish the "fun" in it does it?

Jesus christ you are an insufferable debatebro. Had any normal user done what you did, they'd been banned. Despite you being a condescending smuglord and me therefore treating you like one, it's still probably only me who's gonna catch flak once the rest of your clique wakes up and you can cry to them about it. Eat shit.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago

so you can't dunk on the same people as before, they have to be public figures now?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

yes, according to you guys the purpose of dunking is for it to be fun and cathartic, it still is if the dunking is on public figures , therefore it is functionally the same

[-] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

so for someone that finds dunking fun and cathartic, can they still perform the function of dunking on someone who isn't a public figure in c/gossip?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

so it's not functionally the same?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

i already explained in what sense it is functionally the same

[-] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

so it's not functionally the same in all senses?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

thats what functionally same means, that its not literally same

[-] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

okay so if you're going into semantics, can we agree that the term "functionally the same" means two things that have the same function?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

okay cool, now could users perform the function of dunking people who weren't public figures on the_dunk_tank?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

does rule 8 contain this text: "Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this."?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

yes, but we barely if ever saw any posts that used this exception

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

But under that exception, it would be allowed for someone to post a bad take from comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views yes?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

okay, with that exception in mind, could users perform the function of dunking people who weren't public figures on the_dunk_tank?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

yes, if they were from federated instances

[-] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

and the_dunk_tank and c/gossip have the same rules, aside from rule 8 where it now also links to counterpropaganda, correct?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Those were inattentively copied from the_dunk_tank, i removed reference to that rule 8 in c/gossip now, now instead the rule is just that subjects of a post must be a public person

[-] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

ah gotcha, it's good to set the rules up clearly

so now there is no exception for posting private figures on c/gossip, right?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

and the_dunk_tank held the function of providing a place where users could post a bad take from comments/posts made by a private person that have low amounts of upvotes/likes/views, provided that private person made that post or comment on other instances that are accessible from hexbear, yes?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

yes, but as i said it almost never happened

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

so the_dunk_tank and c/gossip are not functionally the same now, or at least as of around 15 minutes ago, correct?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes, though the difference is minor

[-] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This whole subthread has been

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

what was the point of this conversation?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

Go back to reddit, oh my god you are an insufferable lib smuglord.
You expect others - the site culture at large - to move towards one focused on effortposts and development of rhetoric, yet you yourself cant even be fucking arsed to have basic decency. You can't even be arsed to engage with the arguments, not even in good faith, but just at all. Being a reductive dipshit is sad loser behaviour, go kiss a worm.

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