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Original post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3856299?scrollToComments=false

I think we have a general path forward based on community feedback. "We see you, we hear you!"

I went ahead and unpinned the old post. I'm pinning this one for now and will edit this post when I wake up from eepy time. I had a very mid week and have no particular alarm set so be on look out. Love y'all and I'm amped for my first announcement post since coming back. :)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (122 children)

I still don't fully understand what is happening. I know I don't want @[email protected] to go though

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (120 children)

Apparently this is why they are stepping down? I really disagree with that, people are conflating "trying to avoid more drama" with "working with nazis" in the other thread. I feel like I missed something there.
On top of that this is Carcosas reasoning for stepping down which is what motivated me to hammer home that they handled this situation as best as it possibly could be handled and they really should not step down for making mistakes, when the only mistake they've made is listen to those shitty mods.

People, me included, are mad because of the mod statement that was released about the closing down of the comms + The reasoning for closing down the comms. In a lot of ways it seems like this is the culmination of something that has been a long time coming and been unresolved for far too long - Some users think posting is praxis and that hexbear should be the headquarters of the revolutionary vanguard.
These users are dipshits that don't understand that most leftist orgs are also just fun places to hang out and shoot the shit. That's why people choose to volunteer for that kind of stuff - Because it is, in part, nice.
These dipshits furthermore think their treats are somehow less treatlike than the treats they dislike despite both treats being hexbear.
Finally they have a narc mindset.
Also they smell bad and they coat their shitty behaviour with leftist rhetoric so they can get away with it. Lots of talk about "chauvinism", "bigotry" and "toxicity" despite the previous thread being full of those very same people being incredibly hostile, dismissive, derisive, misgendering, ableist and a lot more. This isn't hypocrisy, because they don't actually care about bigotry, they just use it as an excuse to avoid self-reflection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (94 children)

Some users think posting is praxis and that hexbear should be the headquarters of the revolutionary vanguard.

no one is thinking that, no one is forcing you to make effortposts, if you want to just call someone dumb you have c/gossip for that, what we are merely doing is forbidding low-effort dunking on private people, which we think is toxic and boring

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what we are merely doing is forbidding low-effort dunking on private people, which we think is toxic and boring

Then block the comm and pretend it doesn't exist. Why do you have to ruin other people's fun?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How does this ruin other people's fun?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago

You have been accused of wrongthink. Please cease having fun immediately because I don’t like it

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How does removing the place where people go to do a thing, remove their ability to go to the place and do a thing? Are you 12? Children don't learn how action and consequence are linked until age 13. It would eplain a lot of your behaviour if you were a tween

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But you can still do functionally the same thing in c/gossip just not at the same people

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Then it's not functionally the same thing, dipshit

We're now at the point in the argument where you are trying to say "it doesn't even matter!" because all your other pathetic excuses have been hollowed out. The fact that you're a mod is sad, the fact that you haven't had the presence of mind to step down is fucking pathetic.
I know a lot of you people can't handle dissent and get irrationally angry when people disagree with you or like things you don't enjoy, but grow up. YOU and YOUR ACTIONS are unhealthy for the site culture. YOUR BEHAVIOUR is toxic. YOU are the problem. Do some self-crit. Take a step back and ask yourself some questions about why you feel the way you feel about these things.

If you don't enjoy what the site is, then don't participate in it. This is not your personal project, but somethig a lot of people build and shape together. The site culture is ever-changing and that is an organic process. Being a mad little pissbaby because people enjoy things you don't, isn't organic, it's actually not even normal. The things YOU and YOUR clique is doing is killing the site. I know you're deluding yourself into thinking if you just get rid of [group] then this site will finally become good. The site is fine, you're the issue, the rot is inside you. You will never enjoy it, because you will always encounter people who disagree with you or dissent with your opinion or call you out for being a dipshit or enjoy things you don't enjoy. Even things you find troubesome in some way.
In the end this is just a niche leftist webforum, the worst case is permanent stalin-gun-1logout but I'd be sad to see this community go. Especially if it's killed because of some dork like you.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (39 children)

so you can do functionally the same thing just not functionally the same thing, gotcha, makes sense

pooh-wtf

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

People enjoy making fun of people that you're not allowed to make fun of in c/gossip, clearly.

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