this post was submitted on 02 Nov 2024
879 points (95.9% liked)

politics

19096 readers
3231 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 199 points 1 week ago (8 children)

It's not so alarming what will happen if Trump gets elected

What's more alarming for me is how dumb America could be that they are even considering electing someone like him ... or to even have a choice between an average politician or a wannabe fascist and everyone is having a hard time deciding on what the sane option is.

This is a general intelligence test for America ... and so far they are failing.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 week ago (4 children)

To be fair, a lot of people believe that choosing neither somehow would absolve them of any guilt should fascism win.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is what I mean .... the choice is either an average politician or an old wing nut orange man ... but the choices are so difficult for Americans to decide that many choose neither and never think that they are instead paving the way for the wannabe fascist.

I can't believe that the fate of the world hinges on the deranged decisions of a completely confused people. As much as I don't want to admit that America has so much influence, they do have literal control over much of the world and they do have the largest most powerful military at the moment. So whoever gets to be leader will set the stage for the stability or instability of the world in the next few years. And it's all riding on ill informed choices of a very ill informed population.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's absurd how much power the executive has. The president shouldn't matter that much. They are responsible for implementing laws that are written and passed by congress. That's pretty much it. Maybe appoint a SCOTUS judge or two. And a bunch of lower court judges. Pending senate approval, of course.

Instead they are now nearly unilaterally in charge of the strongest military and largest economy the world has ever seen. Or at least they will, if Project 2025 or Agenda 47 is to be followed.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

don't forget the christian second coming accelerationist folk who just want to see it all burn because they're embarrassed they've fucked up too many predictions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

They wish to literally embody the "all it takes for evil to prosper.." axiom

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

One party in particular has gone to great lengths to wreck the education system, looks like we are starting to see the results of those efforts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

The culture of America is rooted in bigoted populism. You know what the big political issue of the 1850s was? 1870's? 1920's? 1960's?

It's the aftermath of the 60s that kept the creeps quiet for awhile, but we're regressing to the mean now. This is the real America for better or worse. Always has been.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Cause vs tipping point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This is a general intelligence test for America … and so far they are failing.

It's not.

Most voters aren't "stupid," they just live in completely different information universes.

This has always been the case in America, but I feel like it's never been so severe, with people basically having their minds sucked into phones by design.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

My parents have been brainwashed into not believing any news that shows Trump in a bad light. When I show them video of one of his rants, or his dancing, or him giving a microphone a happy ending, they think I'm gullible and am falling for doctored video.

When people have been trained not to trust legitimate news sources, it's really, really hard to convince them to come back to reality because, in their eyes, we're the brainwashed ones.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep.

I feel like information hygiene should be a mandatory part of school curriculum now. Like not just a small part, but hammered in.

It's too late for our parents I guess, unless either party feels like regulating big tech...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Though as an addendum, my mom grew up Republican, but doesn't know how to use Facebook or anything, and she hates Donald Trump with a burning passion. Its kind of hilarious. She would literally, actually vote for Hitler over him, as his personality is so fundamentally incompatible with her, lol.

I mention that, as it feels like a test case for someone that hasn't been conditioned to view him as a superhero or whatever.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

Disagree. Americans are too comfortable to do much of anything for themselves. The rise of centrism is basically being OK with whatever, and calling that clever.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

The test was failed many many years ago.