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Vote for the change you want to see.

The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can't happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.

If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we'd be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everything you listed here is putting the cart before the horse.

Bernie was doing well until the DNC put all of its backing into Clinton and even ran negative ads against Bernie.

Get money out of elections if you want change. If you’re just looking to bash people to the left, carry on as you are.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, the cart always has to be voters. Actually showing up to the polls has to be the cart. Anything before that is nonsense. Leftist will never ever ever have any power in this nation unless they show the fuck up. A lot of leftists don't want to show up they just want to sit back and complain.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is nonsense. I worked on Bernie’s campaign in 2016. I saw what happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh cool! Tell us exactly what you saw then.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You saw what happened? You saw more votes go to the other candidate? Because that's what happened.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find myself thinking, “how could trump possibly get elected (again)?” And then I have exchanges like this.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well certainly yeah I agree that's exactly how he would win. Leftists thinking they should stay home in a snit. Leftist not showing up is exactly how Trump will win I agree. Which is why I would hope you would join me in telling leftist to get off their ass and vote. Instead you're making the counter argument for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I will never stand by what you are saying here in these comments. Never. By gaslighting the left, you gain nothing and only turn people away for life. Your words are exactly why I will never support the DNC; never own up to their corruption, blame the left, and continue to slide right.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not actually trying to argue one way or the other, but

No, the cart always has to be voters. Actually showing up to the polls has to be the cart. Anything before that is nonsense.

You're literally putting the cart before everything else, including the horse. Work on your metaphors a little.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

You're totally right I should have put horse there.