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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If that were the case, climate change caused the entire Roman Empire, the Chinese empire, the Mayans, the Songhai, all of feudalism...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Scared people want strong leaders (a daddy) to tell them it's okay, it's not the climate, it's the queers, migrants, etc. And Daddy's going to fix it.

Blame may not be the right word. But the destruction of our environment and everything that goes with it, certainly gives authoritarianism an opening.

Judith Butler goes pretty deep into this in Who's Afraid of Gender? Of course their analysis focuses mostly on how gender queer people end up being targeted. But the unnamed fear of climate destruction is a big factor. And trans people one of many scapegoats for power hungry demagogues.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Changing climate did have a major impact on all of those Empires though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Usually it's a combination with dysfunctional politics, war, resource depletion and climate change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not entirely sure climate change couldn't just be argued to be the cause of all the others there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

You can have succession wars, incompetent inbred rulers and overexploitation without any climate change. But climate change would make it more likely to happen and make the outcome worse.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Who upvotes this nonsense? lol.

The causes of problems today are not necessarily the causes of problems for mayans, ancient romans, etal. It's sad that I have to say this.