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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

This isn't my effort post so it might be against the rules. I'm just linking and copying two posts from subreddits that have compiled all that has happened over the past week.

First, here's a thread of all recent H3 controversies, sorted by date. There is a lot in there, so I'll be copying the ones related to this topic.

October 15th

Ethan says 100% of the Jews he knows are struggling after Oct 7th and says Zionist is a slur

Ethan posts about defending "antisemitic terrorists"

October 16th

Ethan makes a video dedicated to canceling and de-platforming Hasan Piker, admits he wants to deplatform Hasan on Twitch for "interviewing a terrorist", and shows an unlisted clip of Hasan titled "HamasAbi"

October 17th

Hasan says Ethan is too focused on his personal feelings and calls him self-centered

Ethan calls Hasan's stream "vile embarrassing trash"

October 19th

Ethan posts video titled, "Twitch has a major problem"

Frogan provides context for the "Habbibi pass" tier list - A bunch of Arab streamers made a tier list on who had the Habbibi pass, the controversy was around the lowest tier which was titled ' Loves Sabra' i.e. likes Sabra hummus. Ethan claims this is antisemitic and a dog-whistle about Jewish people.

Ethan posts about Yahya Sinwar

Ethan compares Jewish streamer Raffoulticket to Blaire White and Candace Owens for defending the Arab streamers

October 20th

Frogan responds to Ethan's claims around hummus/"Loves Sabra"

Hasan debunks the Hummus/Sabra debate, says it's NOT antisemitism

October 21st

H3 Podcast covers Twitch, Frogan and antisemitism, says Twitch CEO Dan Clancy must resign and puts Nazi Symbols on Twitch CEO in his YouTube thumbnail

He successfully gets the Arab streamers banned off Twitch.

October 22nd

Ethan posts video titled 'I Won't Let Hasan Piker Lie About Me To His Audience, then lies about not knowing Destiny, says the Left is eating itself

Ethan claims he "conceded" on far-left ideals such as letting the Palestinians have a state

October 23rd

Hasan calls Ethan Islamophobic

Ethan makes an instagram story about nmplol

Hasan says Rashid is not a terrorist, just like Hila is not a terrorist

Hila admitted to raiding homes in Ramallah and move from her assigned desk job into combat roles because she was “bored”. BadEmpanada HAS MADE a video titled 'Hila Klein is a Terrorist' due to her time in the IDF where she asked to be transferred to the Israeli-occupied West Bank, performed logistical duties for the IDF terrorist organization, and volunteered to tag along during an IDF terrorist attack against a Palestinian house in Ramallah.

Ethan targets Emma from Majority Report - LINK 1, LINK 2, LINK 3, LINK 4

Second, here is a thread correcting the misinformation Ethan spread about Hasan

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The streamer I hate here is Ethan Klein, so I really don't know why you're telling me all this stuff.

In your other post you wrote "All streamers are bad, sorry friends. The demands of the attention economy and monetization are directly in conflict with having principles and good takes." I wrote what I wrote to explain that Hasan has had enough influence on the growing of the anti-Zionism movement, convincing people to be anti-Zionist, that the state of Israel is trying to have him kicked off the internet.

Ethan is a scratched liberal. While Hasan was making a podcast with Ethan, Hasan knew that Ethan was a liberal. The point of the podcast was to talk to Ethan about Marxism and Leftism as a way to convince Ethan's audience to not be liberals and to teach them about socialism. I actually met a guy who had been a fan of Ethan and told me that he had been turned on to the ideas of socialism from listening to that podcast. So in the sense that their podcast convinced some of the audience to having socialist principles, I think it was a success.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I see. I was a bit confused, since apparently you were responding to my other comment in the thread.

If you want to know why I think streamers are bad generally, you can look no further than the way that an ideological conflict over Palestine instantly becomes subsumed into personal drama, fandom, and is ultimately monetized by all sides as attention is drawn to it. Not only by the primary participants but by the entire ecosystem of drama recappers and other bottom feeders. So that instead of talking about Palestine we are talking about whether Hasan is good or not. And believe me when I say that I don't care in the slightest. The structural incentives of his line of work will limit his effectiveness and ideological range in the long term. He will ultimately have to choose between material success and ideological rectitude. And this conversation will feel as embarrassing in hindsight as people who were ride or die for AOC in 2017

Also I don't believe for a second that this Zionist freak was cool before October 7th of last year lol. They saw there was money to be made

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

When did I say that you have to like Hasan or that you have to believe Hasan is good? Please reread my posts. I said you don't have to like him. I said you don't have to learn about him. You are the one who is making it about personal drama. You are making this about hating streamers. I am trying to explain to you that Israel has a larger project of silencing every anti-Zionist person on the internet, including on twitch. You are the one changing the subject from Israel trying to hide it's crimes to your own personal grievances.

// Twitch 30-day banned 5 prominent channels this week for being expressing anti-Zionist views. Two of the 5 banned streamers have family living in Lebanon right now being bombed by Israel.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I posted an emoji lol, not an invitation for you to start a lengthy conversation with me about Hasan. Please examine your parasocial attachment to the streamer you appear have an encyclopedic knowledge about