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Not allowed to work from home (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world
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[–] 112 points 2 years ago* (6 children)

In all of my IT jobs I would have been fired if I had signed into work accounts on my personal phone. It's a pretty big security risk.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    True, but in small companies it's not uncommon.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I was at a subsidiary of a very large company and had work slack, email, and all my code on my phone, without even the thing that lets them remote wipe your phone.

    It has to do with culture and willingness to put in the effort by the security organization

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Not exclusive to IT; I had to weigh the benefits of continuing to work as a caregiver for a small company, versus working in retail for a massive chain (which translates to fantastic insurance benefits.)

    Sadly not a competition.

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  • [+] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Fuck their data, what about my own? That pest of an app is not getting onto my device. And neither is anything else that gives an employer any control over my device.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    A totally reasonable stance.

    For clarity, the android feature essentially makes a work dedicated partition on the phone. Their management app can manage that partition, and for the purposes of data movement it's essentially a distinct phone.
    If they've set it up correctly they can do a remote wipe without touching your personal data.

    https://support.google.com/work/android/answer/7502354?sjid=18390510946809838606-NC#zippy=%2Ci-own-my-device

    In a lot of cases the drive to have users use their personal devices rather than employer owned ones comes from the users, not the workplace. Only needing to keep track of one device is easier in many cases.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Unless it's 24h gold service with 24k gold pay, the work phone gets turned off at the end of office hours.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    Most companies seem to have don't ask, don't tell policies in place.

    Technically we're not allowed to use Teams on our phones, but most of us do, including management.

    I'm also technically not allowed to use Spotify on my laptop, but if they'd enforce that ban, IT would be gone tomorrow.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Eh, it doesn't need to be, you just need to do the work of putting together granular access controls that can account for your risk profiles.

    The risk isn't much different between a company owned telephone and a personal telephone.
    They're both susceptible to most of the same attacks, or being left on the bus.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In my current job the old manager okayed working on our own devices.

    I would use my personal workstation to ssh into and do work on my work mac, did that for a few years. saved me disassembling my desk between uses every day or buying a costly KVM.

    They seem to be getting a lot more uptight about security these days (although the "you can work on personal devices" rule hasnt been explicitly rescinded) so i have stopped interaction between my personal devices and work devices.

    Having a M2 mac recently makes it easier, i can lie in bed and work pretty much all day on a single charge so my desk remains intact

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