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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What are the Mastadon Integration problems?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure they're referring to the concept of defederation and how that can splinter the platform.

Bluesky is ""federated"" in largely the same ways as Mastodon, but there's basically one and only one instance anyone cares about. The federation capability is just lip service to the minority of dorks like us who care.

To the vast majority of Twitter refugees, federation as a concept is not a feature, it's an irritation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

an irritation

I get it, hearing about federation is the worst part of this site . Y'all sound like coinbros "here's the most inefficient storage method, lets call it something easy to remember and sell it as a feature!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

You could just stay on the biggest mastadon instance and not care about anything. Wouldn't be too different than just using bluesky.

Preferring handcuffs because it's more seemless sounds like a terrible mindset

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

Preferring handcuffs because it’s more seemless

They're not handcuffs. You can always log off.

But the big appeal of BlueSky is the initialization of the interface. It defaults you to "Following" rather than "Discover" and isn't jamming a ton of ads in your feed. There's basically no algorithm. Its a very basic service, rather than an engineered mess. More akin to Facebook or Twitter from back in the '00s, before monetization ruined them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Partly. Except the time different Mastodon instances were not federated much or at all. If you wanted to go follow someone on Mastodon you had to know the exact server they were on. In an environment like Reddit and Lemmy where you're there for the communities instead of the people that isn't an issue. But if you want to go follow some specific podcaster you need to know the instance because there's no guarantee that whatever instance you happen upon is going to be joined up with the one there on.

Everyone was busy running their own servers and not trying to tie everything together. It was a thing that could be done but a thing not enough were doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That sounds worse than I thought it was. I just assumed Mastodon was like Lemmy, where every instance federates with every other instance basically by default and there's only some high-profile defed exceptions.

A Fediverse where federations are opt-in instead of opt-out sounds like actual hell. Yeah, more control to instances, hooray, but far less seamless usability for people. The only people you will attract with that model are the ones who think having upwards of seven alts for being in seven different communities isn't remotely strange or cumbersome. That, and/or self-hosting your own individual instances. Neither of these describe the behavior of the vast majority of Internet users who want to sign up on a platform that just works with one account that can see and interact with everything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It sounds like an asocial network - something for me finally, perhaps :)