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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

That makes an assumption that all or a big majority third party voters would prefer Harris over Trump.

Just for clarifying the logic here.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Nobody who would have otherwise voted for Trump is going to be convinced to vote for Stein. Every vote she gets IS one that was much more aligned with Harris.

This isn't a question of ALL third parties, but there aren't any right-aligned third parties making any kind of a meaningful run.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (12 children)

What??

In Michigan Gary Johnson got 172,136 votes, in Pennsylvania he got 146,715, and in Wisconsin he got 106,674. If all Greens voted Clinton and all Libertarians voted Trump then New Mexico would've only been won by Clinton with around 1,000 votes, Colorado would've also been nearly Trump. Nevada, New Hampshire, and Minnesota would've been won by Trump. Maine might've gone majority Trump.

Third parties hurt Trump more than they help him, because Libertarians would not have voted Clinton.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Green Party is far more left-wing than the Libertarian Party is right-wing.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's very convenient measuring ideological abstracts rather than the objective number of votes those parties got.

Vote for the candidate that aligns to your politics. If genocide and climate disaster is compatible with those, stick to the GOP or the Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How does that contradict what I said. Also the LP is still further right than the GOP

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If all third-party candidates had to vote for one of the two main candidates, I think nearly all of the Green Party votes would go to the Democrat, while the Libertarian votes would be much more of a split.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

while the Libertarian votes would be much more of a split.

Maybe an 80/20 split at best, but the GOP has always been the more libertarian aligned party, going back to Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and now Thomas Massie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They actually aren't further right anymore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I don't agree, but "right-wing" doesn't really have a non-arbitrary definition so it doesn't really matter

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