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Theres enough racist people that hes a candidate

Thats it, lets stop putting our heads in the sand with 'economic anxiety'

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ive seen plenty of people even prominent marxists say this, doug and ben from Zero books for example, repeat this line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I have never heard of Doug and Ben and don't know what they're all on about. Class reductionists are a thing but idk if that's what they are without reading their words.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

Forget about class reductionism, how about any class analysis whatsoever? OP’s “analysis” is pure race reductionism and moralism without a single ounce of Marxist thought instilled.

Apparently using any class analysis whatsoever or referencing factual historical origins of things is “class reductionism” now?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Im not beholden to marx like you are, i just want better outcomes for everyone and saying racism would "disappear with capitalism" is dangerously ignorant of history.

i have no problem saying im just a non sectarian leftist who wants the best for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ok liberal idealist, have fun never solving racism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I don't want to hear anything about "class reductionist" from non-Marxists who reject Marx and reject class based analysis entirely. Go off and live in your idealist fantasy world of eternal platonic evils and leave material analysis of history to us who care to connect our ideas with reality and alter the world. Stop stealing our words and aping our ideas poorly. Stay in your own lane or learn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

I'm disagreeing with their "race reductionism" too if you read my earlier comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There was racism against celts and people perceived to be "others" long before the advent of capitalism dude, by all means keep screaming at me obnoxiously about how im a liberal who hasnt read marx (idgaf lol)

im not saying class doesnt play any factor at all, contrary to your weird straw-mans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

There was ethnic prejudice and strife. Can’t be racist if the concept of race has yet to be conceived