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Voting is a necessary but not sufficient condition for accomplishing things. For example, I voted for Obama to get some kind of single payer and that didn't happen.
Plus there's things I want that no amount of voting will accomplish, like the dissolution of nation-states.
What Dems need is consistent and overwhelming victories. Want single payer? Then you need more house reps and senators so Manchin types can't water it down. Thus the message in the original post.
Unfortunately I can't vote in other districts or states so I'm at the whims of whatever everyone else does.
Like I said in another post: Voting is a group project and everyone in my group is ignorant and short-sighted. I hold no hope for ever getting the sort of overwhelming victories we need.
If it will take forty years of solid Democratic majorities to unfuck this country then it will never be unfucked.
This is the point where I point to the original post.
The original post is very Pollyanna and ignores systemic and demographic problems that will never allow that level of domination.
I've been voting for 25 years and these things haven't happened, and I don't think they will ever happen.
It's a tad simplistic but it's on point because the left never shows up or votes 3rd party. If they showed up, it would be a big change.
I think the reason the left never shows up is because they don't exist in the numbers Internet wonks think they do.
Maybe, maybe not. But 3rd party instead of Gore cost him the election. I think the protest non voters cost Hillary the election. And in any case the target for discussion here is all these Lemmy users that don't vote in protest.
People who don't vote in protest are an example of how idiotic Americans are, and why I think the post is fallacious.
That's not a fallacy.
Oversimplification is a fallacy. "Just get everyone to vote" ignores a lot of other problems. Like the intelligence of the general public.
That's still not a fallacy.
It’s still wrong
Wrong (which I don't necessarily agree with) does not mean a fallacy. A fallacy is incorrect logic pathway. You can make a wrong argument and that does not make it a fallacy.
Tried and true Internet argument strategy of whining about an inconsequential detail instead of the issue at hand. Nice one.