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The Sauron and Celebrimbor relationship was pretty cool and I was invested in this story.
Also enjoyed the dwarf storyline a lot!
I was very disappointed the Stranger actually turned out to be what everyone suspected from day one. Why keep this fact hidden for two whole seasons if it's not even surprising?
Cool to see Tom Bombadil. I expected him to be much quirkier from the books though.
Adars end was underwhelming. His whole arc never really went anywhere or wasn't clear enough.
I agree with you the Numenor stuff is confusing and not interesting at all.
All in all I liked the second season a lot more than the first but it all feels a bit aimless as there are many parallel stories that don't seem to relate to each other (at the moment) and there is no main goal.
That's exactly how it feels. I was thinking about Game of Thrones & House of the Dragon, and why those feel so much more connected.
In Game of Thrones all (except Dany) meet in Winterfell in the first episode. In House of the Dragon it's similar, but generally everyone meets in the beginning. I guess technically Galadriel & "Halbrand" met almost everyone in season 1, but they just sorta wandered through and didn't set the stakes.
It's also uneven when we do visit our storylines. Almost like we spend too long with them, and then forget the other ongoing stories.
It might be the „fault“ of the material as it is based on books like the Silmarillon which in itself is a collection of (not very exciting) stories. It might have been more fitting to have multiple limited series or movies about each story. On the other hand, that’s how Star Wars became such a mess that no one cares about anymore…
No, they butchered the creation of the rings for example. The order is wrong. Tolkien has the rings for the elves created last without Sauron’s presence or collaboration. It’s a major point that they remain untainted by Sauron’s hand.
The story of the Numenor and also the rings takes place over almost two thousand years and many generations. The rings are forged over a period of 90 years.
Of course telling a story over such a long time on a tv show isn’t easy, so they compressed the timeline. The show makes no real attempt to show how much time passes or how long the distances they travel are. People seem to teleport around. The seasons haven’t changed once over the whole show. That implies everything happened over the course of a few months.
Adar, the black elf, Durin’s wife, the hobbits, and all southlanders are completely made up for the show. The stranger’s (Gandalf) and dark wizard story are also inventions of the show.
Multiple shows or a long running animated show might have been a better fit, I agree. Possibly make the first season only about the elves and dwarves. Then the second season about Numenor. Third season brings them together in the war of the last alliance.
Your point about teleporting is so true! I haven’t thought about that but noticed how small this world seems. I had the same feeling in the last seasons of Game of Thrones but there it was very noticeable because earlier seasons really managed to give a sense of time and distance and then it changed.
I don't mind the sped up timeline as long as the story is told well. The rings taking a couple of months to be made versus 90 years is fine. I suppose if you had a story that had to be told over 90 years, then do that, but if it's just 90 years for the sake of it, I prefer the smaller timeline.
Sure, it makes sense to compress the timeline for a tv show.
The first and second season both have moments of brilliance mixed with mediocre and outright cringe material. The passage of time is terribly communicated, if at all. Geography seems to be nonexistent as characters pop up all over middle earth almost instantly. The world feels small somehow. The locations, cities, and battles seem small. The extras aren’t directed well and just hang around. The editing is often weird. The battles are terribly directed as well. There’s no presentation of what’s going on tactically, it’s mostly random brawling in mud of two dozen stunt men.
The whole show feels rushed. They spent a huge amount of money only to end up with a meh script, soso props, costumes, and sets. A lot of the creative decisions feel like the checklist provided by a committee of producers: hobbits and Gandalf need to be in there without plot reason, action and fight scenes in every episode, mystery boxes that go nowhere, contrived conflict between friends, pathetic memberberry references to the far better Peter Jackson movies. The rushed production also explains the meh costumes and where all the money went. To get things done quickly, you have to spend more, but still get worse results. Peter Jackson spent years in preproduction designing costumes, props, and building sets.
There’s barely any breathing room for characters, plots, and just ambiance and world building. Lots of things seem to happen all the time, they’re mostly inconsequential though. So it’s high tempo and boring at the same time.
Tolkien’s themes aren’t well understood either, is my impression at least.
I’m still watching, because it has its moments, and I will watch everything Tolkien apparently.