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My mom is in assisted living and I have a suspicion that the staff, or perhaps a resident, is taking her money. I need something that won't look out of place and isn't easily disabled, maybe it plays possum when unplugged but has battery backup. Anyone have any advice?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

IANAL, but I believe these laws cover audio recording only. OP shouldn’t have an issue if they use something that records video only.

Think about it a second. I live in a two party consent state, but I see security & surveillance cameras everywhere. If two party consent was required for video then they wouldn’t be there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The doorbell cameras that everyone have all record audio, in blatant violation of law, and they hand it over to police. I'm surprised there hasn't been a court case to really slap those companies on the wrist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Outdoors are generally not protected by right to privacy, even if on private property.

Someone standing in their own front lawn can be recorded with both video and audio without their consent.

This is what makes it legal to record police.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Hmm, interesting. A lot of things make more sense now.

I think there should be protections a bit stronger than that, at least. You're forced to go outside to basically live life. If you have a situation where you're forced to pass through someone else's property by geometry they lose their right to stop you, and something similar should apply here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's mostly true, but the front porch of a home is part of the home for 4th amendment purposes. Police obtaining warrant-less access to your front porch would violate this.

If someone is out on the street, it can still be illegal depending on the state. In new york, for example, the definition of illegal eavesdropping includes:

"Mechanical overhearing of a conversation" means the intentional overhearing or recording of a conversation or discussion, without the consent of at least one party thereto, by a person not present thereat, by means of any instrument, device or equipment.

There's no no stipulation about location.