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[+] 152 points 3 years ago (65 children)
  • [–] 113 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Tipping is dumb, but tipping in Trump propaganda 10x dumb.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago (2 children)
  • [–] 38 points 3 years ago (14 children)

    Tipping seems to be a cultural thing in the States.

    Here in the UK we take the Mr. Pink approach to tipping.

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  • [–] 69 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It stopped being a cultural thing decades ago. Now it’s about about companies not paying employees a living wage and America’s right wing constantly blocking legislation that would force employers to pay people enough to have shelter and food.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    It actually started as an economic thing too, because businesses during the great depression weren't able to consistently pay living wages.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    It started much earlier than that and has roots in racism. https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/

    After the Constitution was amended in the wake of the Civil War, slavery was ended as an institution but those who were freed from bondage were still limited in their choices. Many who did not end up sharecropping worked in menial positions, such as servants, waiters, barbers and railroad porters. These were pretty much the only occupations available to them. For restaurant workers and railroad porters, there was a catch: many employers would not actually pay these workers, under the condition that guests would offer a small tip instead.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    During the UK lockdowns, I tipped all the front line workers where I could. That's it.

    I'm not tipping someone as compensation for doing their job, that's what their employer is for.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I tip for exceptional service. If someone goes above and beyond what's required of them, I leave a tip. I also tip if I make their lives more difficult that they should have been.

    Dealing with our general public, during COVID definitely counts as both. Particularly with the number of people who couldn't figure out how to wear a mask. At the same time, I also didn't go out much during the pandemic, mostly due to the whole pandemic thing going on.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (1 child)

    What is exceptional service? How is it different from bad service? As an introverted north european I never figured this out myself. For me good service means I don't need to wait too long for my food/get the check but other than that I want to be left alone. I imagine I would find "good service" quite uncomfortable.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    It's generally context and individual specific. E.g. a bed delivery driver is paid to get it to your door. If they also lug it up the stairs to the loft room, that is exceptional service.

    Another might be a restaurant team who deal particularly well with a food allergy. E.g. making specific checks of requirements, and going out of their way to make a dish in a safe manner. Rather than just saying it's not an option.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It used to be quite the opposite. Tipping was big in Europe but not in the US.

    That changed with Prohibition. When alcohol was banned, there was suddenly a large whole in the bottom line of restaurants across the US. They turned to having a tipped staff to stay open.

    Sadly, when it was repealed, tipping stayed. It was since inflated from 10% to 15% to now over 20%.

    Some have tried to get rid of it, but sadly it hasn’t worked.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    if you're wanting to protest those businesses, you might wanna start with not buying from them in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

    Not always that easy is it, if you want to go out you have to find a place that advertises their no tipping policy. It's go and don't tip or stay at home or else take part in a shit system.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (18 children)

    Disliking tipping is no reason to screw hardworking people over. Tipping is a fact of life, even if you think it’s dumb.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    But it doesn’t have to be if the employers pay how they should

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    Ultimately, we need to tip people in the short term to keep them afloat until we can work with them in the long term to get America to the standard that most of the rest of the world takes, where tipping is a special case scenario only for exceptionally good work, and never to be needed or expected.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    It really doesn't have to be a "fact of life", and it isn't in many places, such as Australia and England -- nations with very similar degrees of economic prosperity, and very similar cultures, to the USA.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    People have tried and failed. But my point is, until that time you have to tip. I don’t care for people that don’t tip while arguing they are doing their server a favor. It is a disingenuous attempt to be cheap. A server’s paycheck should not be held hostage to a a war on tipping culture.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    Or, employers could pay their workers better.

    Novel thought, right?

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