this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2024
383 points (96.8% liked)

politics

19097 readers
4485 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said in the wake of the deadly school shooting in Georgia that the massacres are sadly a “fact of life” and offered ways to fortify schools to make them safer against gun violence.

Kamala Harris put out a statement with Vance’s comments and called for “action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals.”

And it appeared to strike a nerve with team Trump that she used Vance’s comments against them.

“Kamala’s interns just released a statement pushing FAKE NEWS,” Trump War Room posted to X with its more than 2 million followers. “Watch the full video and you’ll clearly see that JD Vance does not say what they claim he said. These morons do nothing but lie every single day.”

Except Harris’ campaign shared the same video.

Here’s what Vance had to say:

“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” he said. “But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”

All of that was in what Harris’ campaign shared with her joint statement on the shooting with running mate Tim Walz. Vance said what team Trump said Vance didn’t say and accused the Harris campaign of distorting.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

“But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

The psychos are the students! What school is gonna prevent a student from walking in? If you are intended to be inside the building there will never be enough security to keep killers out when the killer is already in the building. They would have to start cavity searching students because if they want to shoot up the school they would find a way.

The only solution is LESS guns available!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cavity searching the students is genuinely their recommendation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well. The problem students. You know the ones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The ones with Republican parents?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The ones they find attractive?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

“But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

I guess no one remembers the fire alarm fiasco... March 24, 1998

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/westside-school-shooting-3717/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There is another way.

Mental. Health. Care.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need more of that, but we also need less availability of guns.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're charging the dad again here.

I don't think that's appropriate for every case, but when the parent provides access to an AR-15 with a child that has shown clear signs of mental instability... yeah, that's negligent homicide.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I think every parent of a school shooter should be charged. Kids can't buy a gun without being old enough and if they go black market where did the kid get the cash? I don't let my kids hold onto enough cash to buy a gun, it goes in our joint bank account so I'll know if they withdraw it. When they are 18 we will sign it over to them.

There are so many things a reasonable parent can do that a neglectful parent doesn't. Also know who your kids friends are, meet them, meet the parents, judge them, judge the parents and the kids harshly. It's your right as a parent to keep your kids safe. If they are in a bad crowd then do something. Change their school, report any and all suspicions that you have, follow your kids if they go out alone. I know its overbearing and your kids may hate it but it's your ass on the line if they shoot up a school or theater.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can't CBT your way out of fascism and poverty

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Poverty no, fascism, you can help those most vulnerable to believing it get the help they need so they are no longer suspectible to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Are therapists doing class consciousness now lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

i mean, technically they aren't wrong, even the most educated and intelligent people are still susceptible to fascism, that's why it works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

More than that. Attendance is mandatory (as it should be).