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The best argument for altruism (lemmy.world)
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[–] 8 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

It’s such a convoluted philosophy it’s impossible to even say what it is because it means ten different things for ten different countries. In my country they are weird amalgamation of monarchists, conservatives and ultra-capitalist catholics but in Russia they like fight for lgbt rights.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    No. Actually the philosophy is quite clear. The man who coined the term and was the first libertarian was a revolutionary in the French Revolution. The problem is so many people apply the noun to things that clash with the ideology.

    Libertarians are not libertarian. Ideologically Libertarians often tend to be fascistic. But are so hyper self-centered. They do not buy into and will not participate in embracing any group identity.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    I wish people stayed true to the original definition of words. Politics would be much easier to navigate. But alas who doesn’t do social manipulation these days: We are freedom fighters except we hate lgbt and are pro Catholicism and some even want return of monarchy vote for us!

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    The definition hasn't changed. Soviet Russia a Marxist leninist Nation had a party called the Communist party. They were not communist. At least not outside of aspirationally. They were still Marxist leninist. But they rely on people easily being confused between nouns and adjectives

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Effectively it changes because we live in post truth society. It doesn’t matter anymore what was the original meaning of the word except to some few nerds that no one listens to anyway. That have phd in politics or something equally useless and cringe.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It’s such a meaningless term it’s impossible to even say what it is

    Big "what even IS a racist?" energy 🙄

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I don't think that's exactly fair, the term did get coopted by right wing anarcho-capitalists, so its had a pretty significant semantic shift from its left wing social anarchist origins.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There's still left-libertarians in the world. You just have to specify now that anarcho-capitalists have appropriated the term, rather than pretend that no elaboration can possibly apply.

    Having to be more specific when referring to other kinds of libertarians because of definition drift is annoying, sure, but it hardly makes the term meaningless.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Idk why you thought throwing racism here is a bright idea tbh

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    Because it's the most common word that people falsely call meaningless.

    I didn't intend to imply that you're a racist, though if you were a right-libertarian (which It would seem you aren't), there'd be a lot of overlap there lol

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