▲ 198 ▼ Russia is signaling it could take out the West's internet and GPS. There's no good backup plan. (www.businessinsider.com) submitted 2 years ago by Alteon@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com -16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Where though? They just gonna fly enough jammers up into orbit to cover the entire path and all the satelites and pretend thats not going to also jam every navagation satelite including their own and China, their biggest allys? I don't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) They just have to give them the raspberry. I don't get why this is so hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Soviet Union proved that it was able to shoot down satellites in the 60s. The technical difficulty of hitting a satellite with a missile is not really an obstacle here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent [–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just put up your own satellites that mimic the GPS satellites to throw off the calculations of anyone trying to use them. Your devices wouldn't know which signals were legit. Do this, then get absolutely raw dog fucked by the US (and any other competent) military, who has absolutely no issue with ground nav or weapons guidance because they all use encrypted GPS signals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago You don’t need satellites in space to shift GPS, they’ve been messing with it in war zones for years, and AWACS like planes could do it in real time anywhere they won’t get shot down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* China doing it in 2007 was big news because they joined the club. The West and Russia has had the capability for decades. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago They can't even reach the satellites permalink fedilink source parent [+] snooggums@midwest.social -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Jam some strategic locations, like air travel hubs or highly populated areas for the highest impact. No need to jam wide open low population areas without military targets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago* I also just don't see anyone in Russia deciding that were going to trigger article 5 by using a jammer on US soil. The risk reward is non existent unless they can make the whole country GPS and internet dark at the same time. Imagine that many resources going on the ground in a country as large as America. It's basically asking Ukraine to regain any territory they had a counter invasion plan ready for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's easy you just drive the truck into the area. It's when you turn it on that's the issue. You're going to meet a lot of people very fast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Like speedating with small arms fire! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are not jamming GPS with a briefcase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* I was just pointing out that it isn't necessary to jam 100% of GPS to have a massive impact. The odds that Russia could pull anything off is pretty small, and jamming GPS for more than a few hours is evenless likely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago Triggering NATO collective defense so they can deploy a jammer on US soil doesn't seem to be what they're threatening, and they're already been using jammers in Ukraine. So either theyre threatening to do something they can't do or theyre threatening to do something they're already doing, and already being countered, in a new place. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Which they do. Not on a global scale, though. It is quite annoying to be Russia's neighbours. But you can work around it. In fact, it's not bad to train yourself to operate without GNSS. And it would be even better if the jammers decided to spontaneously combust. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 years ago* (3 children) Where though? They just gonna fly enough jammers up into orbit to cover the entire path and all the satelites and pretend thats not going to also jam every navagation satelite including their own and China, their biggest allys? I don't see it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) They just have to give them the raspberry. I don't get why this is so hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Soviet Union proved that it was able to shoot down satellites in the 60s. The technical difficulty of hitting a satellite with a missile is not really an obstacle here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent [–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just put up your own satellites that mimic the GPS satellites to throw off the calculations of anyone trying to use them. Your devices wouldn't know which signals were legit. Do this, then get absolutely raw dog fucked by the US (and any other competent) military, who has absolutely no issue with ground nav or weapons guidance because they all use encrypted GPS signals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago You don’t need satellites in space to shift GPS, they’ve been messing with it in war zones for years, and AWACS like planes could do it in real time anywhere they won’t get shot down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* China doing it in 2007 was big news because they joined the club. The West and Russia has had the capability for decades. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago They can't even reach the satellites permalink fedilink source parent [+] snooggums@midwest.social -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Jam some strategic locations, like air travel hubs or highly populated areas for the highest impact. No need to jam wide open low population areas without military targets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago* I also just don't see anyone in Russia deciding that were going to trigger article 5 by using a jammer on US soil. The risk reward is non existent unless they can make the whole country GPS and internet dark at the same time. Imagine that many resources going on the ground in a country as large as America. It's basically asking Ukraine to regain any territory they had a counter invasion plan ready for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's easy you just drive the truck into the area. It's when you turn it on that's the issue. You're going to meet a lot of people very fast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Like speedating with small arms fire! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are not jamming GPS with a briefcase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* I was just pointing out that it isn't necessary to jam 100% of GPS to have a massive impact. The odds that Russia could pull anything off is pretty small, and jamming GPS for more than a few hours is evenless likely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago Triggering NATO collective defense so they can deploy a jammer on US soil doesn't seem to be what they're threatening, and they're already been using jammers in Ukraine. So either theyre threatening to do something they can't do or theyre threatening to do something they're already doing, and already being countered, in a new place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) They just have to give them the raspberry. I don't get why this is so hard. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Soviet Union proved that it was able to shoot down satellites in the 60s. The technical difficulty of hitting a satellite with a missile is not really an obstacle here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent [–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just put up your own satellites that mimic the GPS satellites to throw off the calculations of anyone trying to use them. Your devices wouldn't know which signals were legit. Do this, then get absolutely raw dog fucked by the US (and any other competent) military, who has absolutely no issue with ground nav or weapons guidance because they all use encrypted GPS signals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago You don’t need satellites in space to shift GPS, they’ve been messing with it in war zones for years, and AWACS like planes could do it in real time anywhere they won’t get shot down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* China doing it in 2007 was big news because they joined the club. The West and Russia has had the capability for decades. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago They can't even reach the satellites permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Soviet Union proved that it was able to shoot down satellites in the 60s. The technical difficulty of hitting a satellite with a missile is not really an obstacle here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just put up your own satellites that mimic the GPS satellites to throw off the calculations of anyone trying to use them. Your devices wouldn't know which signals were legit. Do this, then get absolutely raw dog fucked by the US (and any other competent) military, who has absolutely no issue with ground nav or weapons guidance because they all use encrypted GPS signals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago You don’t need satellites in space to shift GPS, they’ve been messing with it in war zones for years, and AWACS like planes could do it in real time anywhere they won’t get shot down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* China doing it in 2007 was big news because they joined the club. The West and Russia has had the capability for decades. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago They can't even reach the satellites permalink fedilink source parent
[+] snooggums@midwest.social -6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Jam some strategic locations, like air travel hubs or highly populated areas for the highest impact. No need to jam wide open low population areas without military targets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago* I also just don't see anyone in Russia deciding that were going to trigger article 5 by using a jammer on US soil. The risk reward is non existent unless they can make the whole country GPS and internet dark at the same time. Imagine that many resources going on the ground in a country as large as America. It's basically asking Ukraine to regain any territory they had a counter invasion plan ready for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's easy you just drive the truck into the area. It's when you turn it on that's the issue. You're going to meet a lot of people very fast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Like speedating with small arms fire! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are not jamming GPS with a briefcase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* I was just pointing out that it isn't necessary to jam 100% of GPS to have a massive impact. The odds that Russia could pull anything off is pretty small, and jamming GPS for more than a few hours is evenless likely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago Triggering NATO collective defense so they can deploy a jammer on US soil doesn't seem to be what they're threatening, and they're already been using jammers in Ukraine. So either theyre threatening to do something they can't do or theyre threatening to do something they're already doing, and already being countered, in a new place. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago* I also just don't see anyone in Russia deciding that were going to trigger article 5 by using a jammer on US soil. The risk reward is non existent unless they can make the whole country GPS and internet dark at the same time. Imagine that many resources going on the ground in a country as large as America. It's basically asking Ukraine to regain any territory they had a counter invasion plan ready for. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's easy you just drive the truck into the area. It's when you turn it on that's the issue. You're going to meet a lot of people very fast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Like speedating with small arms fire! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are not jamming GPS with a briefcase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* I was just pointing out that it isn't necessary to jam 100% of GPS to have a massive impact. The odds that Russia could pull anything off is pretty small, and jamming GPS for more than a few hours is evenless likely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago* I also just don't see anyone in Russia deciding that were going to trigger article 5 by using a jammer on US soil. The risk reward is non existent unless they can make the whole country GPS and internet dark at the same time. Imagine that many resources going on the ground in a country as large as America. It's basically asking Ukraine to regain any territory they had a counter invasion plan ready for. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's easy you just drive the truck into the area. It's when you turn it on that's the issue. You're going to meet a lot of people very fast. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Like speedating with small arms fire! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Like speedating with small arms fire! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Lmao, not really. But it's fun to think about like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are not jamming GPS with a briefcase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are not jamming GPS with a briefcase. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Huh. I went to go look at that stuff and it's definitely 2024. At any rate news articles made it clear that airports have dealt with GPS jamming for over a decade already and the FCC is pretty quick to send someone out with RDF equipment if it's not a transient signal from a highway. Planes aren't falling out of the sky so they've got a good idea of how to handle it already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 1 point 2 years ago* I was just pointing out that it isn't necessary to jam 100% of GPS to have a massive impact. The odds that Russia could pull anything off is pretty small, and jamming GPS for more than a few hours is evenless likely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago Triggering NATO collective defense so they can deploy a jammer on US soil doesn't seem to be what they're threatening, and they're already been using jammers in Ukraine. So either theyre threatening to do something they can't do or theyre threatening to do something they're already doing, and already being countered, in a new place. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago Which they do. Not on a global scale, though. It is quite annoying to be Russia's neighbours. But you can work around it. In fact, it's not bad to train yourself to operate without GNSS. And it would be even better if the jammers decided to spontaneously combust. permalink fedilink source parent