▲ 198 ▼ Russia is signaling it could take out the West's internet and GPS. There's no good backup plan. (www.businessinsider.com) submitted 2 years ago by Alteon@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 111 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Soviet Union proved that it was able to shoot down satellites in the 60s. The technical difficulty of hitting a satellite with a missile is not really an obstacle here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent [–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just put up your own satellites that mimic the GPS satellites to throw off the calculations of anyone trying to use them. Your devices wouldn't know which signals were legit. Do this, then get absolutely raw dog fucked by the US (and any other competent) military, who has absolutely no issue with ground nav or weapons guidance because they all use encrypted GPS signals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago You don’t need satellites in space to shift GPS, they’ve been messing with it in war zones for years, and AWACS like planes could do it in real time anywhere they won’t get shot down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* China doing it in 2007 was big news because they joined the club. The West and Russia has had the capability for decades. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago They can't even reach the satellites permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skua@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago (2 children) The Soviet Union proved that it was able to shoot down satellites in the 60s. The technical difficulty of hitting a satellite with a missile is not really an obstacle here permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Yeah, the Soviet union could also mass produce tanks and planes. Russia today... Glances at Ukraine Is using almost exclusively Soviet stock. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) It may not be a problem technology wise, but do they really have the equipment today to blow up dozens of satellites? I seriously doubt it, Russia isn't the Soviet Union, they seem less capable, and corruption would probably have undermined the program even if it still existed. And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago And even if they can, can they also do it without harming their own and China's geopositioning systems? Nope, they can't. And not only that, destroying that many satellites is almost assuredly going to trigger Kessler Syndrome and lock out space for the most part for a good long while. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just put up your own satellites that mimic the GPS satellites to throw off the calculations of anyone trying to use them. Your devices wouldn't know which signals were legit. Do this, then get absolutely raw dog fucked by the US (and any other competent) military, who has absolutely no issue with ground nav or weapons guidance because they all use encrypted GPS signals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago There's also back ups. so destroying the GPS isn't a good solve either. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago You don’t need satellites in space to shift GPS, they’ve been messing with it in war zones for years, and AWACS like planes could do it in real time anywhere they won’t get shot down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* China doing it in 2007 was big news because they joined the club. The West and Russia has had the capability for decades. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago They can't even reach the satellites permalink fedilink source parent