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I apologize for a bit of a delay this time around. @[email protected] will be taking a hiatus from Hexbear to redirect focus to local organizing efforts. For the time being, I will be taking over the posting of EM POC weekly threads.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've given up on trusting white people. Settlers should be required reading for the POC left. It'll save us so much disappointment and heart break.

There was a Twitter thread where an African American woman said that a tweet by a Palestinian American woman was "threatening" and got the whole soup of liberal crackers and the feds after her. Really endangering her life in the process.

The tweet was about how kopmala was coming to Chicago and how pro-palestine Chicagoans were ready for her.

It was cracker after cracker spewing the most hateful islamophobic nonsense at her that ultimately got the feds after her. Just straight up political intimidation.

I will never trust a white "leftist", "progressive", liberal in my life. I really thought things were going to change this time around. It didn't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's heinous. Downloading Settlers right now.

There's really only a small handful of white leftists -- leftists proper, not liberals -- I can fully trust, and the dividing line really seems to be where they fall on Palestine and the Democratic Party. If they support Palestine and want the highest echelons of the Democratic Party tried for war crimes, they're cool. If they waver or try to soften those stances at all, then they're really just liberals.

My (¡white!) partner warned me: "don't trust those white liberals, don't talk to them, don't try to pull them left. They're dangerous and they'll snitch on you as soon as the empire tells them their safety depends on wiping out the Left. I know you've seen what white people are like when they're attacking marginalized people, but I've seen what they're like from the other side. It's inhuman. They have no souls." I didn't listen. I should have listened.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What your partner said doesn't surprise me. You've heard/read about white people being surprised at other white people when in private. Those kind will be about coexistence and will support BLM and trans liberation in public or when their POC and/or trans friends are around. Those kind will never miss an opportunity to virtue signal about how tolerant and progressive they are compared to those dastardly Republicans. Here's the thing tho, those white people are the exact same people who will show their true colors when they're exclusively around other white people. In private or through online anonymity they'll let the other white people know how they really feel.

That's how you get stories of some white people getting shocked when those kind use slurs in front of them when there are no POCs around. It's a jarring experience I imagine, someone from your community thinks you're the same kind of racist they are.

It's a doomer reality and I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That makes sense. It's kind of amazing though, white liberals are so openly terrible and basically Nazis when they know they're talking to marginalized people. The idea that they may be masking somewhat and can and do get worse when they feel comfortable (namely, only amongst white people) is mind-boggling and kind of frightening.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is. That's why whenever whites say that black Americans didn't free themselves from slavery because white people did it for them is probably their most bald-faced lie.

White people would keep slavery if there wasn't the threat of black revolution hanging over their heads.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

whenever whites say that black Americans didn't free themselves from slavery because white people did it for them

What an absolutely disgusting thing of them to say!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ahistorical too. Nat Turner showed white America at the time that they were not needed for liberation. Nice to have white people on your side, but absolutely not necessary. Many of the union soldiers were ex-slaves/ freed men that were looking to end slavery.

Black Americans freed themselves, despite a white onslaught.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sometimes I wonder if the fetishization of John Brown was because the whites could better identify with him than with Nat Turner even though Nat Turner's actions were more successful. Not to dunk on JB, he did an objectively good thing too

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You're right about Nat Turner, if he was white there would've been several movies about him made across the decades. The man spearheaded the change in rhetoric among whites and destroyed the 2 myths: that slaves loved being slaves and slaves weren't smart enough to stage a rebellion let alone be successful in it.

Depending on who you read, some people credit his rebellion as one of the events that led to the civil war.

He was a goddamn legend.

Can't make many movies with JB because he unfortunately wasn't as successful. Still badass tho

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It is. That's why whenever whites say that black Americans didn't free themselves from slavery because white people did it for them is probably their most bald-faced lie.

All I say is "Haitian Revolution", beyotch...

Btw, if there weren't that much kkkrakkas to out-populate them, I'd suppose the Black Americans would've certainly fought them, a l'Haiti...