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[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

WhatsApp by default backs up to Google drive, which is laughably insecure.

I don't know how good is WhatsApp's e2e implementation, I've heard good things about protocol though. But I do know Telegram protocol documentation contains all information needed to implement e2e capable Telegram client, and their e2e is really good, I've seen it done by my friend and as I'm a programmer and am interested in cryptography, I followed his work very closely.

I still do not trust e2e group chats, it's a shaky point in security protocols. There was some kerfuffle about WhatsApp being able to silently add invisible listeners to group chats, wasn't there?

Telegram very explicitly chooses the right amount of security and makes user aware of inconveniences this level of security brings along. WhatsApp lies in user's face, making you think it's secure and convenient.

edit: btw I'm Telegram premium subscriber and love it. I subscribed for the ability to convert voice messages into text. I am aware of privacy concerns, voice messages get sent to some 3rd party for this to work. Pretty often this speech-to-text works not very good, I expect it's much better for English language though. I still love my Telegram premium, for being able to support developer and to lower the chance of being the product. Cost is negligible, benefits are tangible.

Every service has a product they sell, if a service is free โ€” you are the product.

Need I remind you WhatsApp is owned by Meta? Free service from creators of Facebook and our mutual respect to their privacy practices, all in the same sentence, yeah.