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During a recent episode of The Verge’s Decoder podcast, Logitech CEO Hanneke Faber shed some possible insight into the company’s view on one of its most important products. Saying that “the mouse built this house,” Faber shares the planning behind a Forever Mouse, a premium product that the company hopes will be the last you ever have to buy. There’s also a discussion about a subscription-based service and a deeper focus on AI.

For now, details on a Forever Mouse are thin, but you better believe there will be a catch. The Instant Pot was a product so good that customers rarely needed to buy another one. The company went bankrupt.

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[–] [email protected] 242 points 3 months ago (5 children)

premium mouse that receives constant updates

Come on. How many firmware updates can we really expect for a mouse?

I've had an m570 for about 10 years. Every time it broke, I fixed it. Why do we need a subscription?

[–] [email protected] 225 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is not about you, but about them. It's not that you need a subscription. It's that they need you to have a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (3 children)

But they need to convince me that the subscription is worthwhile!

[–] [email protected] 89 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you are going to ask questions maybe you are not the target demographic.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Damned straight! I'll stick with my boring old non-ai grandpa mouse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Back in my day the mice had a tail, no scroll wheel, and only 2 buttons!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Back in my day, mice had balls.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

We used trackballs and loved them. We greased the mechanism with our forehead sweat as was the fashion at the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

When I were a lad, we used vi.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But they need to convince me that the subscription is worthwhile!

They'll remove any mice from the market that doesn't have a subscription model and others will follow suit.

Future mouse DLC: "Special promotion! $5 discount on unlocking right mouse button!"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They’ll remove any mice from the market that doesn’t have a subscription model and others will follow suit.

Good luck with removing aliexpress mice from the market

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I doubt the open source options will be adopting this strategy either.

I have a ploopy trackball and love it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How does it compare to the m570?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I use a left handed one, so I can't really comment on most ergonomic computer accessories.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They look nice, but quite expensive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they only had a thumb trackball...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Dang phone, not sure how I missed it. Thanks! Although oof on the price... Another poster mentioned elecom, they have a quite the variety of thumb trackballs, think I'll buy few of those for the price of one ploopy: https://elecomusa.com/collections/trackball Edit:spelling

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

True, they are expensive. But it's one of the very few left-handed, ergonomic mice/trackballs I've ever found.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Damn, I never thought to look there! Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not if they and their competitors remove all the other options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah. There will always be companies just selling a mouse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Are they bluetooth?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

How many firmware updates can we really expect for a mouse?

Almost none, why the hell would a mouse ever need firmware updates except to fix fuckups? It has one job, translate clicks and movements into signals for the computer.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I used an HP dead stock "this ships with every computer we sell" optical mouse for twenty years before it broke.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

All my mice are similar ages, even my Logitech wireless.

I did just have a 15 year old one die, but it got used about 8 hours a day all that time.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So Logitech can bill every one of its customers every month.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

No sale.

Joke's on you; they're into that shit. Their techno-feudalist wet dream is to force you into rentals for everything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This from a company who refused to update their drivers for a USB speaker system for 7, even though it was still actively being sold at stores.

I had bought it a few months earlier at a Fry's, on sale. I think the sku was just about 2 years old, just expiring on their support policy, as a new OS dropped.

Their customer support told to me kick sand.

Fuck Logitech. Their Mice are the only thing I've continued to use because they are actually reliable. But now they're trying to enshitify that behind a subscription, so that's it.