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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's good. The left and Democrats have been criticised for being "bleeding heart" and has constantly been up ended by the right. You can't always be on the high horse when the opponent is playing dirty and not following the rules. Sometimes, it's perfectly fine to dip your hands into the mud once in a while.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm definitely of the James Carville alignment of fighting fire with fire. No disrespect to Michelle Obama, but "When They Go Low, We Go High" doesn't work in our media landscape, and it really didn't work out all too well for Obama. I've said that the first candidate who actually spat fire back and pushed the bully back would do well. Let's not be tolerant to intolerance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

A little louder for the people in the back:

Let's not be tolerant to intolerance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes, it's perfectly fine to dip your hands into the mud once in a while.

The Left says it's the only option. Especially revolution. Especially Lenin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree that you may need a violent revolution but it is on a case by case basis.

I'm referring more to being Machiavellian politically. Franklin Roosevelt is the one I think more, who is able to make significant and lasting changes while operating along the system. In fact, he reshaped the system!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

His cousin Teddy also did some big changes to the system.