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German producers have sparked a dispute by filing an opposition to a Turkish application to grant the döner kebab's special status at the EU level, initiating a six-month period to resolve disagreements.

A Turkish application to the European Commission for the döner kebab to be given similar EU recognition as the Neapolitan pizza and Spain's jamon serrano has been opposed by Germany, sources close to the issue have told Euronews.

As reported, in April Türkiye filed an application to register the name döner in Europe so that it can be used only by those producers conforming to the registered production method and product specifications.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Eh Australian style doner kebabs or just kebabs as we call them a fast food and not connected to Germany in any way.

I’d wager over 300 years the Turks figured out how to wrap meat in bread. We’re all just doing variations of that.

As for the word, it’s their word. They deserve the same ability to enforce a standard behind it as the EU does champagne and that shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Meat in bread indeed is not the German part, for a German Döner veggies and sauce aren't optional, even when served on a plate. Default is Tsatsiki -- not even Cacik, but the Greek stuff, without mint, dill, or extra water. Cucumber, tomato, onions, and some sort of cabbage as veggies, as well as the option of with Scharf, implemented via (usually pickled) Jalapenos and/or Sambal Oelek. There's various things to the whole thing you see in neither German or Turkish cuisine, it is true fusion food, wouldn't be possible without the different cuisines meeting.

As for the word, no, this is like the Italians trying to regulate what "Pizza" means instead of, rightly, regulating what "Pizza Neapolitana" means. If Swedes want to put pineapple in their Döner then Germans are going to join in with Turks calling it a crime against food but we're also not going to stop them.

I've heard all kinds of crazy stuff from outside Germany, like using ketchup or mayonnaise, can't even decide which is worse they're both atrocious choices. There's exactly one valid reason why you would use a sauce that's not yoghurt-based, and that's because you're making a vegan variant -- which would then imitate a yoghurt-based sauce (Vegan is not at all common but veggie options aren't rare, usually replacing meat with falafel otherwise the same concept).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I've eaten a sloppy döner panini at a random train station somewhere once. They used mayonnaise to make it even more greasy. It went hard because I just came home from a ten hour shift. This experience tought me that no food is to sacred to me modified in seemingly disgusting ways. When it's fire it's fire.