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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago (21 children)

If your position is, "bring on the US collapse; maybe it'll ease the boot off the Palestinians' necks," all I can say is that I hope you're right and I hope you're prepared.

If your position is, "bring on the US collapse; I mean how much worse can it actually get?" you probably have no clue what you're talking about unless you've personally spent time in a war zone or lived through Katrina or something like that.

One of the things that struck me while studying the Russian revolution is just how much of an academic relationship we communists have to major periods of historical change. From our position it's way easier to imagine ourselves in the room with Lenin trying to make a tough decision on agricultural policy than it is to imagine stretching your food store through a region-wide famine and crop failure, or watching your family all catch cholera, or getting shot by the white army...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Why does this imagination mind game mean anything at all? We're not "in an academic relationship" we are self-conscious proletariat aware of our world-historical role. It is our job to destroy the imperialist machine from within. The navel-gazing is irrelevant. One way or the other the only way forward for humanity is the destruction and implosion of the US.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

It means you have to tread carefully when organizing, and that it's important not to be callous about hardship.

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