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Tenacious D’s Newcastle show postponed after comment about Trump assassination attempt
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“First Amendment rights for me, but not for thee.”
This was in Australia, who don't have a First Amendment.
Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was America!
This joke turned my whole day around
We don't have free speech in our constitution, but we have protection of free speech in common law, unless it's explicitly banned by legislation, like some hate speech is.
I would think asking for someone to be shot is kind of hate speech. Even in the US where there is explicitly free speech, that could get you arrested if it was believed it incited someone to actually do it. Like Trump did not attack the capitol that day, but he certainly should be held accountable for inciting it with his speech.
Hate speech needs to target a group of people’s.
Hating Trump is fine, he’s not a group of people in need of protection, he’s an individual and being judged for his actions.
Big difference between an offhand comment at a comedy concert and having a sitting president invite an assemblage of men for the purpose of "taking back the country," especially when Trump and his cronies were part of a conspiracy to overthrow the government known as the 1776 plan..
Making an offhand remark at a comedy show without any imminent means or opportunity to act on the threat doesn't create an illegal conspiracy. It's not even a threat, as it totally lacks imminence. On January 6, Trump threatened the capital, the vice president, the Congress, the supreme Court, and the state department, while he stood before an angry mob, hundreds of steps away from these targets.
The only reason that coup attempt failed is because Trump was unable to convince a secret service and capital police to remove their metal detectors from the mall. Now they have project 2025, which aims to purge the government from anyone such as a secret service or Capitol Police Commander who puts the interests of America before the interests of one orange person.
I thought we were going with "freedom of speech not freedom from consequences"?