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New bit idea: Any time someone argues with you about China online and uses Winnie the Pooh as an argument/picture, act like you straight up have no idea what they are talking about “What’s that bear?” (hexbear.net)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I tried it a few times recently when I’ve been down in the trenches of shitposting and it is very funny to make them try to explain their argument to you as if you have no idea what they’re saying. It’s so easy to bait them into thinking they’re about to bring up this amazing dunk about how China banned Winnie the Pooh or whatever and win you over, and then you get to just tell them that’s not true because you just looked it up plus now it feels racist.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm a bit OOTL on the Winnie the Pooh thing. I always just assumed it was just a bunch of redditors making a racist effigy out of a fake news story, but googling it does give a bunch of (western) news outles, wikipedia pages etc. saying the character was censored/banned. Can someone pill me on this/direct me to a less brainwormed place than wikipedia for learning more?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It was actually a Chinese internet joke to compare Xi to Winnie the Pooh. Supposedly people had social media accounts frozen for that and Western media outlets spun that into a story about Winnie the Pooh being censored/banned nationwide and if you posted a picture of Winnie the Pooh you would be thrown into the Uyghur death camps. Iirc there were also some Winnie the Pooh films that didn't get released in China?

Anyway, the ride at Disneyland Shanghai still exists so I suppose the evil CCP hasn't found it yet.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

A few years ago, I traced the original claim of it being banned to an article in Fortune or Forbes, or one of those sites for a paper magazine. And their reasoning for claiming it was banned is that, while it was still being shared, it wasn't as popular a few days later. tails-startled

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

from what I recall it originated with a meme based on a pic of Obama and Xi together implying Tigger and Pooh. it wasn't long until it was censored by the PRC, because this is pretty easily interpreted as a backhanded way to invoke the N word for Obama (and isn't flattering for Xi either). the Westerners then seized on this censorship by pretending it was primarily to protect Xi from the comparison and pretending Pooh was then banned for this reason.

EDIT: okay I found the pic the meme is based on in this article from 2013: https://www.theatlantic.com/china/archive/2013/06/update-on-pooh-tigger-and-the-2-presidents-art-recreates-life-not-vice-versa/276782/ | https://archive.ph/B4Avg

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

n-word

all roads lead to Rome

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Ah, I see. Thanks!