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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"Straftatverdächtig" means "accused of a crime", that doesn't mean they actually commited them. The same statistics also states that only about 30 percent of those non-Germans were immigrants. That means that about 18 percents of (again, only) accused crimes were by immigrants, which is still a worrying uptick from 15 percent of the year before. A likely factor for the uptick was the Covid pandemic in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Feel free to read the second paragraph as well, I specifically mentioned that this doesnt just count convictions. I also refer to foreigners, which is probably the most accurate way to translate "Ausländer“, not just immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But you did say "not the case for Germany" in response to a comment that was specifically about immigrants. So the above commenter's point was that it in fact is the case for Germany.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The cited data refers to foreigners, not immigrants. Although I would argue that the distinction in this case is largely nitpicking anyway, since as far as I understand foreigners in this context are prospecting immigrants, who are already in the country and await the processing of their application for citizenship, or non-citizens simply living here for any reason.

I'm not even sure what you are trying to argue, you even agree with me that the data shows a very concerning trend over the years. Just semantics?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Is it an uptick? Ausländer were 11.2% of the population in 2016 when the proportion of crimes was about the same (40%). 50% more Ausländer, the same amount of crime => the rate is clearly going down.

I chose 2016 because the rates were the same, but you can do the same analysis for 2017. The population of Ausländer has increased by more than their share of the crime rate.