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It's the dunk tank.
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I really hope that others will give the CPUSA a chance and I may be able to answer some questions within good faith.
I understand that the community here is very anti-CPUSA and I hope that I can sway some people to help understand the org better.
Thanks!
I mean how do you justify any of this
the same worn-out "lesser evil" bullshit that has been logically dismantled here dozens of times. with a dash of "poor little Biden doesn't have enough leverage over those Zionists":
unironic "Trump would be genociding Palestinians twice as bad" drivel
Justify what?
... Telling people to vote for Biden and taking an anti-Palestinian stance. C'mon.
We may, but it depends on the district.
I would really expect Palestinian solidarity to be a given, not depend on chapters.
What "chapters"? We don't have "chapters."
Are you really gonna play dumb about the difference between districts and chapters instead of addressing the point?
I already addressed the point though.
You were asked to justify it. You said "it depends on the district". That is not addressing the point.
But it was addressing the point. Simply saying it wasn't doesn't make it so.
And as I already implied, we already have solidarity with Palestine and have many Arab and Palestinians within our organization.
And burgerland isn't systemically racist because Clarence Thomas is a SCOTUS member.
Clarence Thomas is ultra-conservative.
Being to the right of Macklemore
I'm sorry.
Sorry isn't what people are looking for, they're looking for you to materially justify the stance.
says they want to change people's minds, ask any questions, then plays dumb and answers nothing
that's exactly what I would expect
But I'm not.
CPUSA has a lot of baggage compared with PSL or FRSO which plays into the distaste I think. If it's the only option in someone's area then it's better than not being organized, but it's hard to understand why they'd be a committed communist's first choice given their endorsements and campaigning for Biden
Well, they weren't my first choice, but I'm glad that I stuck with them all these years.
That's fair and I think individual chapters and the relationships with members you organize with will be invaluable even if hexbear and other communists disagree with how leadership acts
I agree with how the leadership acts. There is no real rift between the membership and the leadership, though we do have disagreements here and there.
I don't mind you taking the time to chat with me, but you must understand: I'm pretty much here because of the Nat'l Committee.
jfc
What?
i thought you were just trolling but sadly you don't seem to be
I joined the org for a reason, comrade. I'm sorry you're disappointed. I don't mean to offend.
So do you think communists should vote for Biden? Is that the position of the organization?
No.
You say you want to help people understand CPUSA but the way you answer questions is incredibly counterproductive. Why not elaborate in any way?
I was elaborating.
You're giving 1-2 sentence replies that half the time don't answer the question. I would hope someone trying to represent their party here could be more elaborate, especially in what should be the friendliest possible environment (a bunch of fellow communists).
I have answered the questions. The problem is that people aren't really engaging with me or provide anything to really counter, just opinion, no evidence, I feel.
Also, communists are known for their sectarianism and in-fighting and I myself think "left unity" is pretty much a dead meme anyway.
One word is not an answer in these kinds of discussions - if you say the party doesn't support that stance, say what the party's stance actually is.
My guy if this is some kind of troll this is genius. If not, why shouldn't we vote for RFK instead? I think a brainworm better represents my interests than Biden.
Vote PSL or Green party. RFK is a right-winger.
Different party where I'm at but I plan to. Brainworm truly is the best main-stream option.
Also, Green? They're libs lol
Green is better than RFK.
RFK has evangelicals that man his campaign and the stuff he says can be bonkers as well as his policies.
How do the membership feel about this? Were there any major dissents? Have you heard anything else about this for context?