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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's this a good or bad thing?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd recommend watching Technology Connection's take on it, as he was pretty outspoken against the Tesla plug a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjny4u5THpU

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just think of it like everything transitioning to USB-C. It's not good or bad really, it just is. Standardization in these types of situations is usually good but I'm sure some people will be upset that Tesla is involved.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But is NACS open sourc? And license free? I am sceptic with Tesla having control over this. USB C is open standard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Tesla has released all the specifications, so other charging manufacturers can include NACS cables on their charging stations. Several have already indicated an intent to do so.

What Tesla will charge for is access to their charger network, which is probably fair since it costs a lot of money to build and maintain the network.

I for one am very glad to hear this news because the supercharger network is Tesla's one remaining big competitive advantage, and I'll be glad to see all the other car companies more on equal footing with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the same time everything that can run on 5v is transitioning to NOT supplying said 5v power converter. I guess we are all supposed to have built in usb power outlets in every room.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are saying that like avoiding having a box of unused cables in every single household is a bad thing. Including an USB C cable with every device when the average household already has more than an handful of them is wasteful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have like one (1) cable that is type C on one end. The rest is mostly type A (including, but not limited to extension cords using USB generation 2), micro, mini to micro or entirely different stuff like SATA, IDE, PC fan cables or Cat5 networking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who isn't sold on electric vehicles yet, this is a very good thing for me. Proprietary charging stations are one of my main reasons for not buying an EV yet.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's so wild to me that the USA is such a clusterfuck of charging ports and networks. Here in Germany, we have bascially CCS for fast charging and a smaller plug (that is compatible) for slow charging. So every car can charge on every station - with very few expectations. Charging my car is as simple as charging my phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

well that's mostly because the EU required that it become the standard. without similar regulation in the US it's just taken a bit longer for all of the manufacturers to consolidate on one solution

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do Tesla cars in Europe have CCS or do they have to stick to only Tesla brand chargers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CCS. I can charge my Opel (german car brand) on a Tesla charger, and I can charge a Tesla on any other charger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, all Teslas in Europe have CCS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I remember reading they were forced to go with CCS.

[–] HobbitFoot 1 points 1 year ago

It is probably a good thing in that the industry is settling on one standard.