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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's unprovable what might happen if a vote, known to have been cast one way, were cast some other way. this is known as a "counterfactual" and they are, tautologically, unprovable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

it’s unprovable what might happen if a vote, known to have been cast one way, were cast some other way.

Oh really?

Scenario 1: Baseline

  • candidate A receives 10 votes
  • candidate B receives 9 votes
  • Outcome: Candidate A wins under plurality

Scenario 2: Two voters for Candidate A are convinced not to vote (non-vote) or vote for a candidate other than A or B

  • candidate A receives 8 votes
  • candidate B receives 9 votes
  • Outcome: Candidate B wins under plurality

Proof enough?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

no, and the quixotic attempt at proving a counterfactual indicates to me that you are detached from reality.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

indicates to me that you are detached from reality.

And finally, after exhausting any logical defense, you arrive at ad hominem attacks! Thanks for playing have a good day!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

it is not ad hominem to insist that someone who refuses basic tenets of reasoning is not dealing with reality.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

under what circumstances can you claim that two voters would vote differently, but nothing else would change? given that the circumstances changed enough for them to make a different decision, we must conclude that we don't know enough about the fictional alternate reality to guess at the outcome.