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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This isn’t a falsehood, we all know why Hinkle is saying this, but we should not just run to defend China at the drop of a dime just because of blind ideology.

Under current Chinese law, homosexual marriages are not recognized by the courts, or state apparatus, and are thusly not considered a family unit.

From this, adoption by gay couples is not possible as they are not recognized as a suitable family unit and are barred from adoption. Further, foreign gay couples are also not allowed to adopt within China.

Ironically single gay individuals are allowed to adopt due to legal loopholes.

Overall, a lot of people, both reactionaries and leftists fail to realize that China is neither exterminating and imprisoning gays or that its an LGBT paradise. The “Three No’s” policy is still very much the status quo, and homosexuality is mostly still “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, and very taboo.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This indeed, being bisexual and traveling to and having family in China, I dont talk about it with anyone aside from people I know are cool, but it is changing culturally, I liken China to the 80s in the USA, lot of bigots,but shifting opinion is on the wind, eventually it will get better and one day it'll be fine and normal. Similar to Cuba imo.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like the exact same scenario as the vast majority of Western "liberal" countries up to a few short years ago.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s not an incredibly great thing though. If liberal capitalists countries are ahead of you in something that really begs the question of what is going wrong, and how can it be changed.

There’s significant hatred towards them of course, but even in the US, LGBT marriages have been affirmed by the state for about 10 years now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know. He misworded it. It wasn't banned because it was never the law in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Granted, that is essentially a de facto ban. Exclusion by omission serves the exact same purpose as a ban, even if the semantics are different.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the difference here is that hinkle is making it sound like it was legal and then China turned around and banned it, it makes it seem like they’re going backwards in progress instead of forwards