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[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago

Also I stg if this turns into a struggle session about pitbulls I'm locking the thread.

Kill cops not dogs.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Please ban anyone who engages in the racist bullshit against pits. I hate those pieces of shit so much

[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Every time i see pitbull in Poland i know there is a fascist nearby. Literally, they are so integral part of the football hooligan and skinhead subcultures that i never seen anyone else have a pitbull.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, but doesn’t that reinforce my point that it’s an irresponsible owner problem and not a genetically inherent aggression problem?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely, but also explains that people not liking them not automatically make them "dog phrenologists". Correlation does not make causation in this case, but also do not nullify correlation.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Wrong. Blaming the breed for the owner is fucking mentally lacking.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Don't worry I already wrote a whole fucking effort post about this. Just link this post when any dipshit tries to do race science on dogs. https://hexbear.net/comment/4820945

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I like you, I really do. Most of the time anyway.

Please read this and do some self crit before posting racist ass shit perpetuating stereotypes about dogs used to advance white supremacist agendas. https://hexbear.net/post/166819

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

This is about dog breeds, nothing to do with racism. Holy shit.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're not only terribly overreacting, but nothing i my post warrant this, as i described the reality here. I even agreed to the meritum in the next post.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"Overreacting" bruh...

I explained in detail with multiple sources why the pitbull hysteria has roots in racist tropes and redlining please for fuck sake read the post and actually do some introspection on why you hold those assumptions.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is an incredibly UScentric argument that disregards the poster specifying they're in Poland. In Europe pit fighting is historically associated with the lower class, and more recently with white supremacy, not people half a world away.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You're being very Americentric right now. Poland is not the US, and if pitbulls are popular there with fascists, who tend not to like black people, the breed obviously has a different history and cultural associations there.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That would work on me. If instead of poor poc like here in America. I mean I guess it has worked in me, I don't like German Shepards

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Fr, fascists and people who think pits are violent genetically instead of having shitty people abuse them into it solidarity emoji.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

How can you be racist against a dog breed? Like you mean "breedist" or something?

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

On top of what GinAndJuche said, there's multiple layers to it. Racists often use pitbulls as a way of introducing people who don't know any better to race-essentialist thinking. "This dog breed is inherently more dangerous and aggressive, they need to be put down for their own good," that kind of talking point. Then the rhetorical focus becomes more abstract and instead of being about dog breeds, it becomes about racial groups, so they make a parallel between supposedly dangerous dog breeds and undesirable minority groups.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if pitbulls are singled out due to social reasons, how does that invalidate its biology? People have bred dogs for a multitude of reasons, from fighting to farming to hunting. If bulldogs can hardly breathe due to centuries of inbreeding, why wouldn't some dogs be affected in other areas (physical strength or behavior) if humans kept pushing them in a certain direction? You can punt a chihuahua across the room and it'll run away, but most sane people wouldn't mess with dogs like german sheperds, pitbulls, mastiffs, etc. because they will kill you lol. As such, people generally don't use chihuahuas for anything that involves a prolonged fight or confrontation because they can't do anything but yap

These days shit like human eugenics is frowned upon. You can easily refute the conflations between dog breeding and human behavior - and even when there is a "parallel", you can easily point to all the monarchs who ended up like these dogs from their royal "selective breeding", though that's probably not productive because fascists want to euthanize disabled people even if they are the result of their "master race" eugenics projects.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

why wouldn't some dogs be affected in other areas (physical strength or behavior)

size and strength yes. behavior no. "behavior only subtly differentiates breeds. Breed offers little predictive value for individuals, explaining just 9% of variation in behavior"

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Read up on the history of anti pit bull propaganda (if you believe any of the dumbass nonsense like locking jaws you’ve already fallen for it). It’s intrinsically tied to an increase of POC ownership of the breed and racists using that as an opportunity to create a stigma around the breed.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If it makes you feel any better, I almost exclusively see white people defending pitbulls. They also get defensive on any mention of putting a leash on it, but it just seems to be a case of dog owners sucking shit as always.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

People who don’t believe in leashes are a special kind of ignorant. “As always”? This just convinces me more that the ignorant don’t understand how dogs work.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

There was a thread a {couple years back|don't read the comments lmao} about a study in behavior differences between dog breeds. The behaviors that actually reliably differ by breed are:

  • Retrieves objects

  • Howls

  • Avoids getting wet

  • Points

Which notably doesn't include whatever people keep saying about pitbulls.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

lol which dogs avoid getting wet?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

we've got three dogs and two immediately jump in a body of water they see and the other goes on pee strike if it's so much as drizzling outside

he does love the snow tho bizzarely

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I have a husky who hates water. Think it's a survival instinct where water means freezing to death. Also, double coat means they hold a ton of water

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

What's that formatting with {|}? First time I'm seeing it. Is there a name for it? Doesn't look like superscript.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

AFAIK it's a very recently implemented feature and as I understand it it's derived from a Japanese script style convention for annotating text with different characters (I think? I'm just inferring from context here).

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Japanese it's called furigana or yomigana, but it's also used for other ideographic/character based scripts where it's apparently called {ルビ | ruby} {characters | fuck 12}

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/globalization/fonts-layout/ruby

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also look up Stanford, horse breeding and eugenics. Horse and dog breeding are literally where the idea of human eugenics came from.

The book Palo Alto goes into detail about this.

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